# Thoughts on GM/Chrysler merger

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**Created:** [October 13, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121 "2008-10-13T10:50:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/1 "2008-10-13T10:50:59Z")

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I know this merger is only in the very earliest stage of negotiation, but how do you feel about it?

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**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/2 "2008-10-13T11:03:44Z")

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dumb. chrysler sucks

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**Author:** ![jph102900](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jph102900/32/6049_2.png) [@jph102900](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jph102900)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/3 "2008-10-13T11:06:37Z")

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two failing companies merging won’t create one successful company IMO.

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/4 "2008-10-13T11:24:31Z")

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> [@fs: ractive fart can with fart tip....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-ractive-fart-can-with-fart-tip/38319/3):
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> dumb. chrysler sucks

x3

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/5 "2008-10-13T11:27:34Z")

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I disagree. If done properly, it will work. Cut the number of suits in half, streamline the product line, take advantage of the economic crisis by plugging how America benefits when GM is successful, and PUT OUT CARS AMERICANS WANT!

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/6 "2008-10-13T11:27:38Z")

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> [@Goodbye Everybody...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/goodbye-everybody/38307/11):
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> two failing companies merging won’t create one successful company IMO.

x2

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/7 "2008-10-13T11:30:26Z")

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> [@The OMFG it's snowing thead!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-omfg-its-snowing-thead/21130/70):
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> I disagree. If done properly, it will work. Cut the number of suits in half, streamline the product line, take advantage of the economic crisis by plugging how America benefits when GM is successful, and PUT OUT CARS AMERICANS WANT!

chrysler damn near killed Mercedes because their products suck so bad and they will do the same with GM.

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**Author:** ![SMort38](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smort38/32/6008_2.png) [@SMort38](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SMort38)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/8 "2008-10-13T11:31:48Z")

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Chrysler is still in business?

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/9 "2008-10-13T11:33:27Z")

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I fail to see how it won’t. Post merger, sell off Saab, possibly sell off Jeep/Hummer, put Chrysler + Cadillac on the same assembly lines, axe some of the redundant brands (Pontiac, Buick, GMC), etc…

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/10 "2008-10-13T11:37:19Z")

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> [@Goodbye Everybody...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/goodbye-everybody/38307/11):
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> two failing companies merging won’t create one successful company IMO.

x3

> [@Now that the white stuff is starting to fall...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/now-that-the-white-stuff-is-starting-to-fall/38316/14):
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> chrysler damn near killed Mercedes because their products suck so bad and they will do the same with GM.

they were a sinking ship as soon as they merged. chrysler is bound to do the same with any other car company.

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**Author:** ![jph102900](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jph102900/32/6049_2.png) [@jph102900](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jph102900)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/11 "2008-10-13T12:14:00Z")

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If GM were to purely do an asset purchase as opposed to a merger, it could work. They could buy up the assets of Chrysler (the plants, machinery, patents, inventories, etc.) and use their existing workforce (hopefully trimmed down some) to produce some decent cars. I think the minute that you let any of the current members of Chrysler make any kind of decision concerning the design or engineering of the cars, you are bound for failure. Just buy up the assets and get rid of the executives. I am sure that Chrysler would never go for this though.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/12 "2008-10-13T15:54:32Z")

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buy chrysler and shit can it. that’s the only way it would work out

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/13 "2008-10-13T16:07:36Z")

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Ohwell.

when Pepsi and Coke merge I 'll give a shit.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/14 "2008-10-13T19:04:10Z")

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Isn’t Cerberus asking for a stake in GMAC? I thought I remembered reading something along those lines.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/15 "2008-10-13T23:32:03Z")

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> [@Corrupt A Wish](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/corrupt-a-wish/38337/20):
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> Isn’t Cerberus asking for a stake in GMAC? I thought I remembered reading something along those lines.

Yea I think it something closer to that, combining financial institutions to reduce cost as this article states.

> **[GM/Cerberus talks over full ownership of GMAC - Autoblog](http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/12/gm-cerberus-talks-over-full-ownership-of-gmac/)**
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> It's been a crazy few days as news broke that Chrysler and General Motors have been in talks to combine operations. It turns out that there's a pretty significant back-story to these proceedings, and it involves Cerberus Capital Management's possible...

BTW I wouldn’t be surprised if this all turned up for nothing. GM already went to Ford first asking if they wanted to talk. Ford decided they were better off on their own.

> **[NYT at it again: GM originally talked with Ford about merger - Autoblog](http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/13/i-nyt-i-at-it-again-gm-originally-talked-with-ford-about-mer/)**
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> Bill Vlasic, the man who was kind enough to drop the GM/Chrysler pseudo-bombshell on us late Friday night, posted a follow-up to his remarkably unremarkable story claiming that General Motors originally had talks with Ford about a possible merger...

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-gm-chrysler-merger/200121/16 "2008-10-14T00:08:46Z")

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if the government can bailout banks, they should bailout Big manufacturing plants.  
Keep the jobs in america. it’s a circle. more jobs here more revenue in taxes.
