# Thoughts on Lexus ISF **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [October 2, 2015, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-lexus-isf/273093 "2015-10-02T09:50:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-lexus-isf/273093/1 "2015-10-02T09:50:57Z")
I have been wanting a audi RS4 or C63 AMG for years but I recently learned about the lexus ISF. They are a good bit less expensive that the germans and just about everything I have read has had some positive things to say about it. Looking for opinions, thoughts, or expierences ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-lexus-isf/273093/2 "2015-10-02T10:04:42Z")
Friend of mine sells Lexus and let me drive one…pretty much an amazing car all around! ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-lexus-isf/273093/3 "2015-10-02T10:08:06Z")
[http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?281677-can-it-ever-be-justified-to-buy-a-fast-new-car](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?281677-can-it-ever-be-justified-to-buy-a-fast-new-car) ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-lexus-isf/273093/4 "2015-10-02T11:50:15Z")
I kinda like the old ones, but only because of a strange fascination with odd Japanese cars. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-lexus-isf/273093/5 "2015-10-02T12:33:49Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > [http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?281677-can-it-ever-be-justified-to-buy-a-fast-new-car](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?281677-can-it-ever-be-justified-to-buy-a-fast-new-car) First thing that came to mind. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-lexus-isf/273093/6 "2015-10-02T19:57:09Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > [http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?281677-can-it-ever-be-justified-to-buy-a-fast-new-car](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?281677-can-it-ever-be-justified-to-buy-a-fast-new-car) I was looking at used 08 and 09’s with miles. Somehow my S4 has been problem free for nearly 3 years, and now that the shake down of my new track car was successful I am doing a bit of looking around in the 20K range to keep payments reasonable. I guess this is the what would you buy if you wanted a 4 door with around 400hp for around 20K thread I don’t like BMW so thats out. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-lexus-isf/273093/7 "2015-10-02T22:27:35Z")
they are not as good as the germans for performance but they are much more reliable being that they are toyotas. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-on-lexus-isf/273093/8 "2015-10-03T08:43:57Z")
> [@bing](#): > > they are not as good as the germans for performance but they are much more reliable being that they are toyotas. I have been reading throught the lexus forums and it looks like 450hp crank) is possible with a full exhaust. I would think that would get me to the close enough it makes no difference on speed. Not having AWD is a major drag though, but I have never had a powerful RWD car before. I am basically looking at RS4, C63, G8 and ISF. The significantly lower cost of the ISF is a important factor.