# Thoughts ??

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**Created:** [July 30, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/203334 "2009-07-30T20:23:16Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/203334/19 "2009-08-03T06:17:06Z")

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> [@Happy Birthday Mike! (MikeRi24)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-birthday-mike-mikeri24/40747/2):
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> agreed
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> but if you are in the market a creeper, why not buy one with a little more protection?

i guess my stubborness toward this item stems from the fact that if you are relying on a creeper to keep you safe, then you have no right to be working on the car. people will get dependant on the creeper to keep them safe–which imo is the wrong attitude to have.

instill good work ethic/practices–dont cover up poor ethics w/ the false sense of protection. because if you are that stupid, you will still find a way to get f’d up even w/ this creeper.

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