# Thoughts?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [February 3, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407 "2005-02-03T15:35:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![NeveR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@NeveR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NeveR)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/1 "2005-02-03T15:35:30Z")

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![http://img233.exs.cx/img233/6317/9595p1010063med4wa.jpg](http://img233.exs.cx/img233/6317/9595p1010063med4wa.jpg)  
 ![http://img233.exs.cx/img233/6489/9595p1010097med4pd.jpg](http://img233.exs.cx/img233/6489/9595p1010097med4pd.jpg)

Your thoughts?  
What sort of welding is involved?

Won’t crack/burst welds like stainless steel.

Looks good to me.

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**Author:** ![Ed1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/958977/32.png) [@Ed1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ed1)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/2 "2005-02-03T16:42:25Z")

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is that yours?!

hahaha you dind’t go to band!

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/3 "2005-02-03T16:43:14Z")

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thoughts on what?  
sort of welding is involved to create what?

😑 double-u tee eff

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**Author:** ![Jesse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@Jesse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jesse)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/4 "2005-02-03T18:56:04Z")

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is that an oem sr manifold? will be hard to weld to casting

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**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/5 "2005-02-03T18:57:54Z")

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> [@NeveR](#):
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> What sort of welding is involved?

Involved in what dude?

You gotta make your posts more involved…

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**Author:** ![Jesse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@Jesse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jesse)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/6 "2005-02-03T19:02:59Z")

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putting 38mm wastegate flange on stock cast mani?

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**Author:** ![jjm\_240sx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b77776/32.png) [@jjm\_240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jjm_240sx)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/7 "2005-02-04T03:40:00Z")

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I think you would need to TIG and bake?

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**Author:** ![NeveR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@NeveR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NeveR)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/8 "2005-02-04T05:22:18Z")

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Thanks jjm.

Lol the only one who understands me. 😢

Yes, what sort of welding is it that would allow you to weld a flange on a cast manifold.

TIG and bake?

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**Author:** ![mr200](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr200/32/5495_2.png) [@mr200](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mr200)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/9 "2005-02-04T07:05:04Z")

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yup.

Pretty much any welding shop worth its salt can do it for you.

They’ll have the right equip and ovens.

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**Author:** ![AnDrEw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AnDrEw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AnDrEw)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/10 "2005-02-04T09:38:36Z")

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your better off upgrading your manifold while your at it and upgrading to one that is externaly gated.

You will need to modify your downpipe too unless you want to get pulled over for being louder then a transport :lol:

Andrew.

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**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/11 "2005-02-04T11:38:01Z")

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> [@mr200](#):
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> yup.
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> Pretty much any welding shop worth its salt can do it for you.
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> They’ll have the right equip and ovens.

You sure?

I looked into this a bit earlier. The flapper on my t28 is a bit silly so I wanted to do this. I asked Steve Leitner (Concepts on Wheels / Leitner Performance) and they didn’t want to go anywhere near welding on a cast piece.

Obviously it can be done, but I’m not sure any old shop will tackle it.

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**Author:** ![ADAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4af34b/32.png) [@ADAM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ADAM)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/12 "2005-02-04T11:42:48Z")

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i know a local guy in brampton that can bake it and TIG it

it can be done…i had my turbo welded to my manifold

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**Author:** ![rotorkami\_wa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e36b37/32.png) [@rotorkami\_wa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rotorkami_wa)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/13 "2005-02-04T13:40:01Z")

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the cost of getting the job done would be not much less then getting a stone mountian/ebay stinless header. the gains for the extra money would be improved flow rates, lighter header, better cooling around the header. not a real hard decision. Besides welding a cast seam or crack is one thing… but welding a flange to it is going to last for a short period of time, thermal expansion rates of most metals strong enough to hold the wastegate won’t expand enough to last long attached to the cast header…

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**Author:** ![jjm\_240sx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b77776/32.png) [@jjm\_240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jjm_240sx)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/14 "2005-02-04T17:44:52Z")

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larry taler & son in brampton can do it… Ya thats not a cheap job.

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**Author:** ![Cal](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cal/32/5505_2.png) [@Cal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cal)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/15 "2005-02-05T14:59:59Z")

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that torbo is too small

i would use something along the lines of…

![http://www.pitstopdevelopments.com/gallery/gallery/Misc/gargantuan%20turbo.jpg](http://www.pitstopdevelopments.com/gallery/gallery/Misc/gargantuan%20turbo.jpg)

or

![http://www.manturbo.com/img/gear_b.jpg](http://www.manturbo.com/img/gear_b.jpg)

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**Author:** ![spd-dmn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spd-dmn/32/5513_2.png) [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/16 "2005-02-05T15:17:24Z")

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That first pic isn’t a turbo at all. It’s a blower from a carwash :lol:

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**Author:** ![ADAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4af34b/32.png) [@ADAM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ADAM)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/17 "2005-02-05T20:19:20Z")

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mine has lasted…we used almost a pure nickel rod and thermal cycled it

> [@rotorkami wa](#):
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> the cost of getting the job done would be not much less then getting a stone mountian/ebay stinless header. the gains for the extra money would be improved flow rates, lighter header, better cooling around the header. not a real hard decision. Besides welding a cast seam or crack is one thing… but welding a flange to it is going to last for a short period of time, thermal expansion rates of most metals strong enough to hold the wastegate won’t expand enough to last long attached to the cast header…

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**Author:** ![ADAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4af34b/32.png) [@ADAM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ADAM)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/18 "2005-02-05T20:20:39Z")

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i wouldn’t let those idiots touch my lawn mower…they built my first engine and it was a 100% total fubar…totally shit job…

i would stay away from them 100%…100%

> [@jjm\_240sx](#):
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> larry taler & son in brampton can do it… Ya thats not a cheap job.

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**Author:** ![rotorkami\_wa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e36b37/32.png) [@rotorkami\_wa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rotorkami_wa)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts/83407/19 "2005-02-05T22:07:34Z")

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how much did it cost you & by ‘rod’ are you referring to 'stick welding rod or TIG rod if it’s TIG then that’s a lucky find or you went to a big shop, nickle rod is hard to find ( read: months of wating ) in Canada and what did you use for a flange?

> [@ADAM](#):
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> mine has lasted…we used almost a pure nickel rod and thermal cycled it
