# Threads to Sticky/Documentation **URL:** \ **Category:** Network Information\ **Created:** [September 15, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/threads-to-sticky-documentation/54931 "2008-09-15T09:43:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/threads-to-sticky-documentation/54931/1 "2008-09-15T09:43:13Z")
There are some great threads in gen auto that start out as. OMG I’m an idiot poster, I want to swap a motor into my EG. What motor should I toss in it. Then it turns into well a bitch fest omg you are an idiot, but sifting through lots of the info people put up there is enough for one Solid post, with all the info where to obtain a motor, what to motor to swap in, estimate costs, extra parts needed, pros and cons of such swap. Since the OP is an idiot, all this information essentially gets buried, and very hard to search because the title is motor swap. not anything specific were most would just pass over it. so with that info… ad a wiki, or just a new thread with a well compiled post? ---
**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/threads-to-sticky-documentation/54931/2 "2008-09-16T05:10:58Z")
so what do you want…a better search tool? or like this… [http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/878010](http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/878010) ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/threads-to-sticky-documentation/54931/3 "2008-09-16T05:17:35Z")
I didn’t click the link as Honda-tech is actually blocked at my office, but what he is looking for is a wiki that can be searched updated and edited by all users. Or just a post that can be compiled. The post won’t work as only one person will be able to edit. The wiki is doable, but is it something that will see traffic and get used properly? I think that all of Lafengases DIY threads and all of the general how to’s would find a nice home there. Tho other concern is that even though users and changes are logged, and people can be banned for being ass hats, will people respect it and not make stupid changes? ---
**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/threads-to-sticky-documentation/54931/4 "2008-09-16T05:27:44Z")
> [@hondatech link](#): > > Some intro swap information > > Switching OBD motors > > Many people think that swapping in a pre OBDI motor into their 92+ Civic is a good idea. I disagree. First, you’ll have to swap the car from OBDI to OBD0 ot try and change the motor to OBDI. If you get a swap older than a 1991, you have to deal with the cable to hydro tranny conversion. The 1992-1993 Integra is the oddball swap of the bunch, being OBD1 and cable tranny. Your stock Civic has a hydraulic transmission. > Swapping from OBDII to OBDI is a common thing more and more now. Although the idea is quite good, it has flaws. If you use a jumper harness, it is very difficult to get the ECM to fit back in it’s original location. Also, unless you feel like changing things back at inspection time, it’s going to be impossible to pass in some areas. Now places are implementing OBDII testing that will have the tester plug a computer into your OBDII port to check for legality (no pulling the check engine light bulbs anymore to pass). > > General swap info and tips > > This could be better covered by someone with more swap experience, but I’ll put in my $.02. Do it from the top. Just because more people have access to the tools and locations where putting in a swap from the top is easier. Also, make sure you have some way to crack the axle nuts loose. Air tools are a lifesaver when you have to turn bolts in a job like this, as is a torque wrench and a GOOD set of sockets. > > If you can follow directions on here and unbolt things and rebolt them with a little wiring, you can do a swap. > > A special thanks goes out to JDMlyfestyle for this thread [[FAQ]Lots of Swap info for your EG and Del Sol - Honda-Tech - Honda Forum Discussion](http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=983454) > > JDM Swaps > > Honestly, unless these come from a friend in Japan, you’re taking a gamble every time. You have no real way to know how many miles are on the engine, nor how it was treated. Just keep that in mind. It has not been proven (no matter how many claims) that these JDM motors make any more HP. > > Where to find them > First of all, if you are looking for a USDM motor, I’ll suggest local junkyards. They are probally your best bet, as you can look at what you’re getting instead of having to order it. Many people on here have bough swaps online, and they have posted their experiences in this thread: > > [Where did you get your engine? Overall experience with company? - Honda-Tech - Honda Forum Discussion](http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=50010) > > Possible Swaps > > Now before someone jumps on me and says anything is possible with enough time and money, I know. These are going to be fairly straightforward options with the pros/cons. > > D series swaps > These are fairly inexpensive and come in a variety of Civics. IMHO, these are the easiest swaps to drop in. I also don’t want to hear a bunch of whining about the opinions on power levels. Of course there are going to be some exceptions to the rule. > > Pros > Inexpensive > Decent potential (200 whp or so on stock internals) > OEM parts are cheap > More than enough for most people > The best D series come with ~130 hp tops > Optional factory LSD in the JDM D15B > > Cons > Not as much potential as some other motors > Transmission not geared for accelleration > Don’t respond to bolt ons well > Only way to get real power out of them is FI > > ############################################## > > B16 > These can be found in the JDM SIR and SIRII (among other JDM cars, which I don’t claim to know all of which it came in) as well as the USDM 99-00 SI (EM1) and the 99-00 Canadian SIR. They can also be found in the Del Sol VTEC (thanks NinetySevenDC2 and Syndacate). > > Pros > 160 hp stock > High RPM power > Fairly inexpensive > Good transmission > DOHC VTEC > > Cons > 113ft/lbs torque (very little more than a D16z6 stock) > Without knowing what you’re looking for you can end up with a high mileage JDM model > Under 4k or so it feels just like a D16 > > ############################################## > > B18B > This is the motor in the non Type-R and non GSR Integra. > > Pros > Good torque for a 1.8L (127 ft/lbs) > Inexpensive (even cheaper than a B16) > 142 hp (more than any stock D series) > Boost heads love them > > Cons > No VTEC > Longest B series transmission > > ############################################## > > B18C1 (or JDM B18C) > These come out of an Integra GSR. > > Pros > Good Hp and TQ numbers (170, 121 ft/lbs respectively) > DOHC VTEC > Tons of potential > High revving > > Cons > Expensive > Becoming moreso as people keep scooping them up > Slighty longer tranny than the ITR and B16 > > ############################################## there is a lot more but its got all the info anyone needs ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/threads-to-sticky-documentation/54931/5 "2008-09-16T11:07:34Z")
thats kind of what I was talking about. I used honda that as an example. The wiki thats modifiable by users would be amazing ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/threads-to-sticky-documentation/54931/6 "2008-09-16T11:23:21Z")
Here is a wiki add on to vb: [http://www.nuhit.com/nuwiki/features.html](http://www.nuhit.com/nuwiki/features.html) Here it is in action: [http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669&redir\_from=668](http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669&redir_from=668) ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/threads-to-sticky-documentation/54931/7 "2008-09-16T11:26:14Z")
yep 100% awesomeness ---
**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/threads-to-sticky-documentation/54931/8 "2008-09-16T11:29:42Z")
:tup: +1 ---
**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/threads-to-sticky-documentation/54931/9 "2008-11-18T12:47:28Z")
Any say on this? So we can stop some of the stupid fucking questions?