# Thruway tolls increase in January

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 19, 2007, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515 "2007-12-19T11:12:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/1 "2007-12-19T11:12:10Z")

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[http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/232708.html](http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/232708.html)

So much for no tolls on the 190. I knew they were gonna make it up somewhere. :tdown:

Not oly is it a 10% increase next year, but another 5% the next two years in a row :bloated:

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**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/2 "2007-12-19T11:13:49Z")

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wow new york state sucks im, “renouncing all my possessions and moving to Nepal” lol

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/3 "2007-12-19T11:21:27Z")

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Another NY state untouchable authority at work.

It should get real interesting when the state comptrollers audit of the thruway authority is complete and the details of where they really spend their money come out.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_Karus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mrs_karus/32/7426_2.png) [@Mrs\_Karus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mrs_Karus)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/4 "2007-12-19T11:24:38Z")

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urgh… when i come home from vermont i take the 90 ALL the way blah

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/5 "2007-12-19T11:24:58Z")

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We took our motorhome annd triple axel trailer from buffalo to the mass pike exit.

$62.xx fucking highway robery. on top of all the rest stops diesel prices are $.10 more than off highway stations. It’s over $75 to NY.

There is a lot of truckers who will avoid the NYS when coming from new england just to avoid the toll.

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/6 "2007-12-19T11:26:03Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Another NY state untouchable authority at work.
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> It should get real interesting when the state comptrollers audit of the thruway authority is complete and the details of where they really spend their money come out.

Like canal work…ect

When I hit a pot hole on the thruway I get so pissed. WHERE IS OUR TOLL MONEY GOING???!!!

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**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/7 "2007-12-19T11:33:07Z")

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What I don’t understand is, why (or how) are they allowed to push this through without waiting for the audit report first?

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/8 "2007-12-19T11:41:38Z")

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> [@Rx3](#):
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> What I don’t understand is, why (or how) are they allowed to push this through without waiting for the audit report first?

That’s an easy one. They are an untouchable authority. AKA, they answer to no one. When the audit comes out and shows how out of touch their salaries and benefits are with the private sector and how they are wasting money left and right there is no one in the state that can force them to change anything. The governor can’t tell them to do something, he can’t even fire them.

Off the top of my head we have:  
Thruway authority  
Peace Bridge authority  
Erie County Water authority  
Niagara Frontier Transit authority  
Power Authority

There are many, many more. All politically appointed, most for life, none answering to voters.

One of the many reasons NY continues to win awards year after year for being the most dysfunctional state government.

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/9 "2007-12-19T12:05:02Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> That’s an easy one. They are an untouchable authority. AKA, they answer to no one. When the audit comes out and shows how out of touch their salaries and benefits are with the private sector and how they are wasting money left and right there is no one in the state that can force them to change anything. The governor can’t tell them to do something, he can’t even fire them.
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> Off the top of my head we have:  
> Thruway authority  
> Peace Bridge authority  
> Erie County Water authority  
> Niagara Frontier Transit authority  
> Power Authority
> 
> There are many, many more. All politically appointed, most for life, none answering to voters.
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> One of the many reasons NY continues to win awards year after year for being the most dysfunctional state government.

I hate how it works, it’s just like the dmv. the ladies who work there should all DIAF I think i’ve met like 2 nice ones.

The last time I was at the dmv the lady was on her phone for 5 MINUTES while i sat at her window…not a business call,but a personal one…i think with her husband.

It’s like WTF?! any other job she woulda been fired on the spot.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/10 "2007-12-19T12:21:49Z")

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> [@sedlmeier101](#):
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> I hate how it works, it’s just like the dmv.

Actually, it’s not at all like the DMV. The DMV commissioner is a publicly elected official. If people get pissed enough to get organized they can demand change by voting for someone else.

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/11 "2007-12-19T12:48:52Z")

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ahh thank you for reminding me why I do not miss NYS

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/12 "2007-12-19T14:03:52Z")

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^ That’s ok, the residents don’t miss you either. 😛

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/13 "2007-12-19T14:06:31Z")

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Ahhhh…just wait until the righteous congressman and lawyer friend go after the G.I. bridges next. Cant wait for the increases once those go away.

If it’s not broke don’t fix it.

Yeah they suck…but making up for it with increases sucks much worse.

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**Author:** ![micah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/micah/32/7257_2.png) [@micah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/micah)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/14 "2007-12-19T14:08:35Z")

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who benefits directly the most from higher thruway tolls?

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/15 "2007-12-19T14:13:42Z")

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The Authority executives would be the first guess.

But since they claim to be self sufficient and take care of all of the roads and bridges on the Thruway the $ should be prioritized that way.

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**Author:** ![vt1992s10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/73ab20/32.png) [@vt1992s10](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vt1992s10)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/16 "2007-12-19T15:03:42Z")

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> [@Mrs. Karus](#):
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> urgh… when i come home from vermont i take the 90 ALL the way blah

I hear you, it has gone up every year since I started school in 04’ almost as bad as tuition…

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**Author:** ![Dlucas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c77e96/32.png) [@Dlucas](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dlucas)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/17 "2007-12-19T15:07:15Z")

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If you don’t like it…don’t use it. There are plenty of ways to get around town without using toll roads. I don’t really give a shit, because I go through for free. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/18 "2007-12-19T16:20:48Z")

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> [@2TurboZ](#):
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> Ahhhh…just wait until the righteous congressman and lawyer friend go after the G.I. bridges next. Cant wait for the increases once those go away.
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> If it’s not broke don’t fix it.
> 
> Yeah they suck…but making up for it with increases sucks much worse.

But raising it because of the 190 toll removal is a complete and total lie. They showed that the 190 tolls took in just as much money as it cost to maintain them. They weren’t a money maker, they were a public works program.

And I don’t buy their excuse that people are driving less on the 90 because of higher gas prices either. I have seen any other sources saying miles driven are decreasing. In fact, most of the time you see them saying miles driven increases every single year. Again, it’s the arrogance of these authorities who think they can just throw any bullshit excuse out there and raise tolls. What they should be doing is looking at where they can cut costs.

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/19 "2007-12-19T16:23:15Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> But raising it because of the 190 toll removal is a complete and total lie. They showed that the 190 tolls took in just as much money as it cost to maintain them. They weren’t a money maker, they were a public works program.
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> And I don’t buy their excuse that people are driving less on the 90 because of higher gas prices either. I have seen any other sources saying miles driven are decreasing. In fact, most of the time you see them saying miles driven increases every single year. Again, it’s the arrogance of these authorities who think they can just throw any bullshit excuse out there and raise tolls. What they should be doing is looking at where they can cut costs.

I agree with you 100% on the bottom part. I did not know about the break even of the 190 Tolls. That said I am sure it takes a ton more invested to maintain 2 old bridges so I would be scared where they make up that.

And if the 190 tolls were a break even, then isnt the Authority still responsible for maint. of the roadways thus forcing them to come up with the same X Milliion dollars from somewhere else?

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**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thruway-tolls-increase-in-january/40515/20 "2007-12-19T16:29:02Z")

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10%? WTF… Theres no tolls on the way to UB, but dam… Thats geting insane. We pay taxes, take care of the dam roads. Why do we pay to use them?

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