# TI welds

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 24, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501 "2009-11-24T10:10:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/1 "2009-11-24T10:10:30Z")

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[http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2682960](http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2682960)  
where you at lowleyoilburner?!?

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**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/2 "2009-11-24T10:26:02Z")

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Honda guys did that ??? \<3

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/3 "2009-11-24T10:31:26Z")

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pie cuts ☹

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**Author:** ![psychopjv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psychopjv/32/7251_2.png) [@psychopjv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psychopjv)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/4 "2009-11-24T10:41:28Z")

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> [@mafdark](#):
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> pie cuts ☹

you have to with titanium.

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**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/5 "2009-11-24T10:42:25Z")

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> [@mafdark](#):
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> pie cuts ☹

its TI…cant make tight radius bends

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**Author:** ![dezod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dezod/32/7467_2.png) [@dezod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dezod)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/6 "2009-11-24T11:08:21Z")

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Ti welding…Holy $10K budget

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**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/7 "2009-11-24T11:12:34Z")

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goddamn thats sick

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/8 "2009-11-24T11:50:38Z")

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the weight of it is just absolutely crazy, the turbo probably weighs 4x as much as the manifold and exhaust together

suprised i didnt see a tial housing used for the turbo

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**Author:** ![clinzee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clinzee/32/5233_2.png) [@clinzee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/clinzee)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/9 "2009-11-24T12:18:53Z")

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> [@alpha earl](#):
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> the weight of it is just absolutely crazy, the turbo probably weighs 4x as much as the manifold and exhaust together
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> suprised i didnt see a tial housing used for the turbo

Later in the thread someone suggests the Tial ss housing but the guy already had a Borg Warner s362 I think?

It’s going into a rear or mid engined K series Mini cooper. Going to be so awesome. I hope he slams it on way to wide rims, supposedly it’s a show car.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/10 "2009-11-24T12:21:00Z")

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there are pics of the car. I saw it.

It’s got super wide fenders, CF ROOF, CF hatch, cf hood. pretty crazy suspension setup. the whole nine basically.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/11 "2009-11-24T12:56:50Z")

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> [@BREETIME](#):
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> its TI…cant make tight radius bends

Can’t they be hot formed? In other words it can be done but it’s just expensive… well, actually its probably cheaper than paying that welder $$$ per hour.

I digress, I understand why they used pie cuts. I just don’t like them.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/12 "2009-11-24T13:09:45Z")

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I think he mentioned they are INSANELY difficult to get ahold of. The company that CAN supply them requires you to prove you work with the US gov’t or something.

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> [@Fabworx](#):
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> with all my research there aren’t many suppliers of titanium,at least when it comes to elbows in the US, my supplier requires a history of government jobs because that is there largest customer… lmk if you have dealt with that type of thing before

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/13 "2009-11-24T13:23:23Z")

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link to the car’s build

[http://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/classic-mini-talk/119730-my-zcars-mini-build.html](http://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/classic-mini-talk/119730-my-zcars-mini-build.html)

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/14 "2009-11-24T13:25:20Z")

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he is talking about the elbows that he bought to make the manifold, he isnt talking about buying tight radius bends for the exhaust etc

and ya bw362 is being used its pretty damn crazy, he said he had over 2000 hours into it

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/15 "2009-11-24T13:26:39Z")

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ahhh, gotcha

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/16 "2009-11-24T13:46:25Z")

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As already stated, Pie Cuts. Ew.

I’d rather just use Inconel and avoid that.

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/17 "2009-11-24T14:19:40Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> As already stated, Pie Cuts. Ew.
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> I’d rather just use Inconel and avoid that.

There is nothing wrong with piecuts from a performance perspective… but just cosmetic really

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/18 "2009-11-24T14:27:52Z")

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And cosmetically they look like dog shit. I will NEVER own a car with pie cuts.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/19 "2009-11-24T14:34:41Z")

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> [@Viper966](#):
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> There is nothing wrong with piecuts from a performance perspective… but just cosmetic really

They definitely don’t flow as well as mandrel bends especially if the welder isn’t top notch.

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ti-welds/76501/20 "2009-11-24T14:46:18Z")

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> [@mafdark](#):
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> They definitely don’t flow as well as mandrel bends especially if the welder isn’t top notch.

depends on the size of the tubing and the amount of gas going through…

but exhaust tubing after the turbo it has almost 2 change in performance/flow…

Pret turbo and smaller diameter tubing like an exhaust manifold/headers would have a change in flow, but it probably wouldn’t matter much

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