# Time for a change? **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 8, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678 "2008-12-08T19:58:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/101 "2008-12-10T18:11:03Z")
Jim, What the hell you do to lose your license for four years? Did you not lawyer up? ---
**Author:** ![d\_gage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d_gage/32/6321_2.png) [@d\_gage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d_gage)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/102 "2008-12-10T18:29:09Z")
> [@Silent](#): > > I’ll just IM Jon williams and tell him e should be a mod …that would clean things up don’t bother, he could give a shit about the local scene as could i really. i enjoy the morons on here arguing and i still have a few friends on here that i wanna keep in contact with ---
**Author:** ![4cedfed4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/6a8cbe/32.png) [@4cedfed4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4cedfed4)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/103 "2008-12-10T19:49:32Z")
I use to love going to the lot, now its just retarded so i rarely ever show up. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/104 "2008-12-10T19:54:35Z")
Wow for the longest time I thought this thread was about politics, due to title :lol I guess it’s time for me to chime in. :ponder I’ll say this from the start, if you want technical information directly directed at your car make and model, there is a dozen well established informational forums out there and a million links with answers that you can get instantly by searching instead of waiting on a reply or two. There is no point in trying to compete with them and that was never the goal. This started as a newspaper support forum to have the articles posted, and as the printed newspaper slowly died off the forum picked up and became it’s own entity in locality specialty. If you want to find local help, local deals, local opinions, local events or just general local drama, we are the place to go (Modern day APG ;D ), there is no other competition or other sites that can help you out with that in our scale. That’s our specialty and that’s how we differ from the vast majority of other forums. I for one will agree that the constant banter that goes on in topics should be generally split to appropriate section (most of the time Trashbin). That is not overmoderating or going in the ways or Rspeed. We pride ourselves in complete freedom of speech besides obvious limitations of direct verbal abuse and threats. We do not delete or edit posts at our will. We even have a member based thread lock policy which is the first of it’s kind, and it is indeed member based. As it sits now, we **are** the leading upstate Auto and Moto forum, by all stats, beating some state wide forums by most stats, with only one state wide forum that I’m aware off as a direct competition by numbers. But they are state wide and mostly western (No not Rspeed), so it wouldn’t be fair to go against them. I sincerely apologize about the lack of vB as of yet and I take full responsibility. The software is purchased and generally ready, but the layout and some coding are not, and I’m to blame. The money was only spend on forum software and forum related expenses, I can assure you of that. And Brew, unlike Rspeed, I’ve never asked for any money, of the members voluntarily collected the money and forced me to take it. I grew up refusing nearly everything that’s offered to me, in Russia the hospitality is second to none and as a guest you will be treated to the full meal in a house even if that means the family won’t eat for the next day. I grew up knowing that and feeling guilty about things offered to me from other parties. I know it’s not it’s not the case in America but it stuck with me, and generally speaking I refuse any sort of offer, or try to at least give back something of equal value in return. As far as Timmay, he’s come and went. I still talk to him. He’s a busy man and has helped us out get started and has moved on, having no negative remarks about the current situation and occasionally wondering how things are going on here. In Cliffs, I personally think the banter that strays far from the original topic should be split into it’s own. That way both of discussions can co-exist in peace without getting either of the parties upset. More splitting? Yes. Reading material in a thread that’s actually relevant to the title clicked? I’d love to see that. I don’t mind the banter, it will happen, but I like to keep it to itself. More moderating help will be required and I do have a qualified gentleman lined up. A lot of moderators are doing a fantastic job, some have reduced their activity and will be dealt with. I’ll elaborate more as I see replies. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/105 "2008-12-10T20:10:15Z")
> [@Vovchandr](#): > > Wow for the longest time I thought this thread was about politics, due to title :lol > > I guess it’s time for me to chime in. :ponder > > I’ll say this from the start, if you want technical information directly directed at your car make and model, there is a dozen well established informational forums out there and a million links with answers that you can get instantly by searching instead of waiting on a reply or two. There is no point in trying to compete with them and that was never the goal. > > This started as a newspaper support forum to have the articles posted, and as the printed newspaper slowly died off the forum picked up and became it’s own entity in locality specialty. If you want to find local help, local deals, local opinions, local events or just general local drama, we are the place to go (Modern day APG ;D ), there is no other competition or other sites that can help you out with that in our scale. That’s our specialty and that’s how we differ from the vast majority of other forums. > > I for one will agree that the constant banter that goes on in topics should be generally split to appropriate section (most of the time Trashbin). That is not overmoderating or going in the ways or Rspeed. We pride ourselves in complete freedom of speech besides obvious limitations of direct verbal abuse and threats. We do not delete or edit posts at our will. > > We even have a member based thread lock policy which is the first of it’s kind, and it is indeed member based. > > As it sits now, we **are** the leading upstate Auto and Moto forum, by all stats, beating some state wide forums by most stats, with only one state wide forum that I’m aware off as a direct competition by numbers. But they are state wide and mostly western (No not Rspeed), so it wouldn’t be fair to go against them. > > I sincerely apologize about the lack of vB as of yet and I take full responsibility. The software is purchased and generally ready, but the layout and some coding are not, and I’m to blame. The money was only spend on forum software and forum related expenses, I can assure you of that. And Brew, unlike Rspeed, I’ve never asked for any money, of the members voluntarily collected the money and forced me to take it. I grew up refusing nearly everything that’s offered to me, in Russia the hospitality is second to none and as a guest you will be treated to the full meal in a house even if that means the family won’t eat for the next day. I grew up knowing that and feeling guilty about things offered to me from other parties. I know it’s not it’s not the case in America but it stuck with me, and generally speaking I refuse any sort of offer, or try to at least give back something of equal value in return. > > As far as Timmay, he’s come and went. I still talk to him. He’s a busy man and has helped us out get started and has moved on, having no negative remarks about the current situation and occasionally wondering how things are going on here. > > In Cliffs, I personally think the banter that strays far from the original topic should be split into it’s own. That way both of discussions can co-exist in peace without getting either of the parties upset. More splitting? Yes. Reading material in a thread that’s actually relevant to the title clicked? I’d love to see that. > > I don’t mind the banter, it will happen, but I like to keep it to itself. More moderating help will be required and I do have a qualified gentleman lined up. A lot of moderators are doing a fantastic job, some have reduced their activity and will be dealt with. > > I’ll elaborate more as I see replies. +1 I remember us having to chase you to get you to take the $$$ :lol ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/106 "2008-12-10T20:20:41Z")
“We even have a member based thread lock policy which is the first of it’s kind, and it is indeed member based.” do tell more vlad. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/107 "2008-12-10T20:34:01Z")
> [@30r\_logik](#): > > “We even have a member based thread lock policy which is the first of it’s kind, and it is indeed member based.” > > do tell more vlad. Three consecutive lock votes by three different members. I have yet to see anything like that and came up with that idea at the start of the forum. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/108 "2008-12-10T21:14:34Z")
Mods need some refreshing… that is all RSpeed sucks… gimme yo monay!! ---
**Author:** ![stockcarboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stockcarboy/32/6303_2.png) [@stockcarboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stockcarboy)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/109 "2008-12-10T23:56:49Z")
i have a question i posted how [ca-va.org](http://ca-va.org) was gay and shift518 was great then i went back on and i couldn’t find it ? it was not locked or in garbage or even in my post history ? i know i posted it because Adam even commented ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/110 "2008-12-11T05:58:48Z")
> [@Vovchandr](#): > > That is not overmoderating or going in the ways or Rspeed. We pride ourselves in complete freedom of speech besides obvious limitations of direct verbal abuse and threats. We do not delete or edit posts at our will. Are you implying that rspeed is overmoderated? ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/111 "2008-12-11T06:00:29Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#): > > Are you implying that rspeed is overmoderated? Is MclovinGP gay? ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/112 "2008-12-11T06:32:10Z")
I’ve had “idiot” edited by a mod on here… :nuts ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/113 "2008-12-11T06:35:02Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#): > > I’ve had “idiot” edited by a mod on here… :nuts I’ve had a moderator position offered to me on RSPEED for ~$25. We are even. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/114 "2008-12-11T06:41:24Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > I’ve had a moderator position offered to me on RSPEED for ~$25. We are even. 🙂 that has nothing to do with the bs claim of overmoderating… I win ---
**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/115 "2008-12-11T06:57:25Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > I’ve had a moderator position offered to me on RSPEED for ~$25. We are even. 🙂 so you would get a t-shirt and rspeed stickers and a mod position for $25… OR… not pay anything and just keep posting for **_FREE_** yes you make an awesome point… thank you :ponder the only reason you were offered a mod position was b/c your posts per day was high and we knew you spent a lot of time on there… so figured you’d be good enough to mod the site… but having a mod on the forum not be a supporting member on the forum is kinda weak… if your gunna help policing the site then supporting the site with a **_ONE TIME PAYMENT_** of $5 is something i would think goes hand and hand ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/116 "2008-12-11T07:00:24Z")
Wouldn’t becoming a mod be doing the site owner a favor? Do you pay your employer to work? :rofl ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/117 "2008-12-11T07:32:39Z")
> [@BENNYFIZZLE](#): > > Wouldn’t becoming a mod be doing the site owner a favor? > > Do you pay your employer to work? :rofl you should not be involved in any discussion about moderator responsibilities :haha ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/118 "2008-12-11T07:45:21Z")
> [@BENNYFIZZLE](#): > > Wouldn’t becoming a mod be doing the site owner a favor? > > Do you pay your employer to work? :rofl :lol ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/119 "2008-12-11T10:31:01Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#): > > that has nothing to do with the bs claim of overmoderating… I win But, I got a chance to put out the fact that Mike sold his moderator position for $25. > [@crazybrew609](#): > > so you would get a t-shirt and rspeed stickers and a mod position for $25… OR… not pay anything and just keep posting for **_FREE_** Or Mike sold the seat on his Supreme Court for $25. :lol Also, WTF am I going to do with RSPEED stickers besides put them on eBay for you and GrandMassa to bid over? :nuts > [@crazybrew609](#): > > yes you make an awesome point… thank you :ponder You don’t see a problem with that? > [@crazybrew609](#): > > the only reason you were offered a mod position was b/c your posts per day was high and we knew you spent a lot of time on there… so figured you’d be good enough to mod the site… but having a mod on the forum not be a supporting member on the forum is kinda weak… if your gunna help policing the site then supporting the site with a **_ONE TIME PAYMENT_** of $5 is something i would think goes hand and hand Or he wanted to make his rent payment? :rofl ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678/120 "2008-12-11T10:32:13Z")
> [@BENNYFIZZLE](#): > > Wouldn’t becoming a mod be doing the site owner a favor? > > Do you pay your employer to work? :rofl Mike was trying a different approach. I was skurred the father would choke me if I didn’t take the deal but my morals helped me prevail. :lol [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-change/240678.md?page=7)