# time for a new car... help! s4 or GTO? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 24, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572 "2009-02-24T17:24:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/41 "2009-02-25T12:17:28Z")
I just looked at a $15,000 GTO with 33k and it was a complete POS. I can’t believe the dealer was selling it with so many broken interior pieces and the engine running like garbage. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/42 "2009-02-25T12:27:44Z")
High mileage VAG product + 120 mile per day commute = FUUUUCK no. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/43 "2009-02-25T12:33:42Z")
60 miles each day for work forget the audi and the GTO. Start looking at diesel power. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/44 "2009-02-25T12:38:49Z")
im just here to say i suggest you buy a honda ---
**Author:** ![Smaefer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Smaefer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Smaefer)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/45 "2009-02-25T12:49:44Z")
This thread :picard: ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/46 "2009-02-25T13:05:37Z")
I can’t believe that I’m recommend the CTS-V (no joke). it walks the line between the two cars and fits your needs better than either. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/47 "2009-02-25T13:05:43Z")
Don’t buy an S4. ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/48 "2009-02-25T13:17:59Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > :lol: 4 or 5 months. Maybe if you drive around in your yard but I can count on my fingers the number of times the city/northern suburbs have seen snow build up on the roads. On one hand the number of times it was significant. > > If you live or drive in the southtowns that’s another story. I commute from fredonia about 3-4 times a week and I have been ok with a RWD car all winter long. I have no problem driving 75mph down the 90 when its covered in snow, as long as you have snows its not that bad. I dont have a GTO but I’m sure is simular to my 3 series in the snow. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/49 "2009-02-25T13:30:30Z")
> [@93dx--hatch](#): > > I commute from fredonia about 3-4 times a week and I have been ok with a RWD car all winter long. I have no problem driving 75mph down the 90 when its covered in snow, as long as you have snows its not that bad. > > I dont have a GTO but I’m sure is simular to my 3 series in the snow. Yeah, they do a good job with the 90 though. I was thinking more if you lived or worked inside the snowbelt and needed to drive on the rural/city/side streets a lot. I wouldn’t want to be DDing my GTO through that kind of snow every day, even with my good snow tires. ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/50 "2009-02-25T13:36:01Z")
^ the 90 sucks in the am from fredonia to a little past silver creek, you would be surprised. I agree If I had a driveway like blueeyed devil I would have a awd car too. ---
**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/51 "2009-02-25T13:41:45Z")
> [@Penfold](#): > > I just looked at a $15,000 GTO with 33k and it was a complete POS. I can’t believe the dealer was selling it with so many broken interior pieces and the engine running like garbage. lol thats what they are like right off the dealers lot. i walked away from that test drive like wtf? really? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/52 "2009-02-25T13:41:55Z")
^Center Street has got to be the worst; in the snow belt (check) on a big ass peak with lots of wind(check) no street lights (check) county maintained (check). lol Holland Glenwood too; steep, long, curvey, snowy, dark, county. FedEX leaves packages at my dad’s house around the corner, they won’t even attempt my driveway. lol ---
**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/53 "2009-02-25T14:14:20Z")
> [@XwalkerX](#): > > lol thats what they are like right off the dealers lot. i walked away from that test drive like wtf? really? Right? :picard: You drive a mechanical time bomb. Out of the 3 audi’s I’ve owned, all of them have been shitty in one aspect or another. No car is perfect, especially not a VAG product after a lot of use. At least with the GTO, you can count on that engine to run forever, and if it breaks you can fix it with little to no knowledge of cars. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/54 "2009-02-25T14:18:35Z")
you dont really “need” AWD for anything. i drive from west seneca to NU every other day in my integra with no LSD, and allseason tires awd is probably more of a want than a need. there is only 1 or 2 days out of the year where you actually NEEED 4wd/awd and guess what, there is either a driving ban or work is closed. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/55 "2009-02-25T14:24:57Z")
my dad’s penis is bigger than your dad’s penis. what a bunch of pickel smoochers, worst GA thread ever. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/56 "2009-02-25T14:37:13Z")
> [@XwalkerX](#): > > lol thats what they are like right off the dealers lot. i walked away from that test drive like wtf? really? uhh what? :picard: ---
**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/57 "2009-02-25T14:49:57Z")
> [@sobo](#): > > Right? :picard: > > You drive a mechanical time bomb. > > Out of the 3 audi’s I’ve owned, all of them have been shitty in one aspect or another. No car is perfect, especially not a VAG product after a lot of use. first off the 4.2l v8 that i own is not the mechanical time bomb i think you are refering to, it would be the 2.7t. i will agree no car is perfect but at the same time the build quality of the pontiac gto i felt was truly sub par. it was like the whole car just felt cheap. interior bits were falling off or fell off during the drive. the shifting felt like poop. overall like i said just wasnt impressed, but at the same time dont get me wrong im sure it can do a great burnout and i bet it is fast and can be made faster for really cheap but for a car you will be in everyday when you are looking for a great daily driver? ill pass. as far as milage i have never had a problem with any vag product with high miles and i have had quite a few. but i guess im just lucky??? > [@Joe](#): > > uhh what? :picard: read above comment ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/58 "2009-02-25T14:51:29Z")
I find it impossible to believe you had that experience with a new example. Unless it was one of the ones in the ship that capsized coming over from Australia. The Holden interior build quality was at least on par with a VAG product. ---
**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/59 "2009-02-25T14:54:34Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > I find it impossible to believe you had that experience with a new example. Unless it was one of the ones in the ship that capsized coming over from Australia. The Holden interior build quality was at least on par with a VAG product. you dont have to believe me im sure minglor will chime in soon enough to agree what a let down it was. believe me i was going into that very open minded cause brian talked them up so much. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-a-new-car-help-s4-or-gto/63572/60 "2009-02-25T14:55:54Z")
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