# TimeWarner vs. Verizon FIOS - School me, please **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 13, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868 "2008-09-13T23:22:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PumiceT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@PumiceT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PumiceT)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/21 "2008-09-15T09:54:00Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > I have no idea wether or not it will save you any money because I have no idea what you pay for TW now. > > Again, the out of the box pricing with ZERO discounts or promos is $84 / mo. > > Actually, judging by your OP I am guessing it is safe to assume that you’re not running an HDTV… > > In which case YOUR monthly cost would be $53.98 before taxes / fees / surcharges. That is the 200 all digital channels & 6X HD channels. > > If you’re not taking advantage of HD services now, you prolly have no need to go to FIOS TV to be honest. > > I looked into it yesterday (because of this thread) and switching to FIOS TV (bundled with my pre-existing phone & internet service) will save me ~$68 / mo versus what I carry with DISH Network now. > > /nick I’d want to change everything together and have one bill. I like to assume the “package deals” are at least somewhat real, so getting all from one company should be better than doing everything a la carte from the various providers. I’m considering getting a moderately priced HDTV if the service isn’t going to be a complete budget-killer. ---
**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/22 "2008-09-15T09:57:10Z")
i wish i had fios ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/23 "2008-09-15T09:59:57Z")
> [@PumiceT](#): > > So, all the bandwidth would get eaten up rather than divided nicely? They do divide if up nicely which is why you get those packages…I don’t know how the network is designed but their are going to be physical limitations on the amount of bandwidth a certian neighborhood or large area can use…dividing up bandwidth with out limiting it on per port basis is a bitch also… ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/24 "2008-09-15T10:00:46Z")
> [@DrDoS](#): > > i wish i had fios do they have Verizon in california? ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/25 "2008-09-15T10:02:18Z")
> [@PumiceT](#): > > I’d want to change everything together and have one bill. I like to assume the “package deals” are at least somewhat real, so getting all from one company should be better than doing everything a la carte from the various providers. The “Triple play” that we’re changing to boils down to: Unlimited local & long distance, the usual features (VM, CID, etc) 20 / 5 internet TV with no premium channels & 3 boxes (SD, HD, Media server DVR Our net bill will be ~$124 (before fees / taxes) After the first year it should adjust to ~$144 (bf/t) At $144 it will be ~$57 cheaper then what I pay now for the “Double play” & DISH. > [@PumiceT](#): > > I’m considering getting a moderately priced HDTV if the service isn’t going to be a complete budget-killer. If you’re planning on picking up an HD set - REGARDLESS of what television provider you choose - you will want as many HD channels as possible so that you can actually take advantage of your set. At first the novelty is cool and you don’t mind watching SD broadcasts… but after a relatively short time you will be bothered by it to some extent. As far as which provider - I can tell you that you will pay a $10 “HD access” fee through DISH Network, and FIOS TV charges no fee for HD channels. I cannot speak with respect to DTV or TW. I left TW nearly three years ago in favor of DISH… and judging by the posts above - not much has changed there. $0.02 ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/26 "2008-09-15T10:14:39Z")
pumice: do you need home phone service? ---
**Author:** ![PumiceT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@PumiceT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PumiceT)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/27 "2008-09-15T10:41:58Z")
> [@evolve](#): > > pumice: do you need home phone service? Yeah. I can’t use my cell phone in the basement, not to mention, it’s just a good idea to have some kind of non-cellular phone at home. ---
**Author:** ![DeusExMachina](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deusexmachina/32/5036_2.png) [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/28 "2008-09-15T10:44:47Z")
FiOS in Rochester = soon. Co-worker’s brother-in-law recently went to training for selling FiOS in Rochester. I’m pining for it here…just moved and basic Internet, plus HDTV DVR is running me a whopping $108/mo. I’d love more HD channels and a faster connection for less money. I really hate how TW punishes long standing customers. When you sign up you get discounts, then the longer you’re with them the more you pay. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/29 "2008-09-15T10:56:04Z")
> [@PumiceT](#): > > Yeah. I can’t use my cell phone in the basement, not to mention, it’s just a good idea to have some kind of non-cellular phone at home. lol, not being able to use it in the basement requires a landline? cellular is more reliable than landline, too. ---
**Author:** ![PumiceT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@PumiceT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PumiceT)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/30 "2008-09-15T11:01:58Z")
> [@evolve](#): > > lol, not being able to use it in the basement requires a landline? > > cellular is more reliable than landline, too. Yes. I use my basement. Is that ok with you?! How is cellular more reliable? I drop calls constantly on my cell phone, I’m yet to have a land-line call lose signal. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/31 "2008-09-15T11:15:15Z")
Landline (VOIP) has it’s weak points as well. :fyi: ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/32 "2008-09-15T11:16:43Z")
> [@PumiceT](#): > > Yes. I use my basement. Is that ok with you?! > > How is cellular more reliable? I drop calls constantly on my cell phone, I’m yet to have a land-line call lose signal. 🙂 That’s cause you are on sprint 😉 I dont drop calls on VZW, I’m sure the ATT guys will tell you the same thing. When the october storm knocked everything out, my cell phone still worked no problem. Landlines were down for awhile… edit: I use my basement as well, no problems talking while doing laundry. ---
**Author:** ![PumiceT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@PumiceT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PumiceT)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/33 "2008-09-15T11:17:38Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > Landline (VOIP) has it’s weak points as well. :fyi: I realize the downside to digital phone service. For normal in-home use, it’s still better than dropping calls or missing 1/2 the conversation due to a weak cell signal. Fine, it’s Sprint’s fault. Come November, I’ll probably switch to VXW, or get the iPhone the company offered to buy for me and be on ATT. Either way, I’ll probably want a home line. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/34 "2008-09-15T11:22:44Z")
eww, iphone. ---
**Author:** ![PumiceT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@PumiceT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PumiceT)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/35 "2008-09-15T11:24:59Z")
> [@evolve](#): > > eww, iphone. Take your pick from the lesser of two evils: Palm OS Smartphone Apple iPhone :lol: Ok. Back to the point of the thread, please. I’ll look up what I’m paying for T-W later, maybe that’ll help the discussion. ---
**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/36 "2008-09-15T11:32:12Z")
What type of contract does verizon want you to sign when they come to install fios? I read somewhere that they spend 5 grand per installation to get it up and running. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/37 "2008-09-15T11:34:28Z")
12 mos. You can do monthly billing for a “few” dollars more. I didn’t check the difference for TV, but IIRC the internet connection was ~12/month more w/o contract. I can aesily see the ONT being a rather expensive piece… surely not $5k, but surely a fuck of alot more then a couple of splitters. When we had FIOS installed a few months back, the tech stated that same unit is required for TV, and so we were “pre-wired” for TV when it rolled out. FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![DeusExMachina](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deusexmachina/32/5036_2.png) [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/38 "2008-09-15T13:18:56Z")
Wow, contract…didn’t think of that. There’s no contract with TW. (Right?) ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/39 "2008-09-15T13:49:01Z")
Our apartment complex is supposed to get FiOS by the end of Dec. I am praying because MDU sucks balls… and by balls I mean balls full of razors coated with AIDS. ---
**Author:** ![PumiceT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@PumiceT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PumiceT)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868/40 "2008-09-15T14:07:37Z")
I currently pay $122.32 per month (actual payment after taxes, etc.) for: Digital Cable on 1 TV Digital Phone Broadband Internet No extra channels, no HD, no super-high-speed special internet other than whatever comes standard with the digital phone modem (I know they offer some other Road Runner which is faster than what I have). [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/timewarner-vs-verizon-fios-school-me-please/54868.md?page=3)