# Tire-Kicking GVR4s Again \[HELP\]

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**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [August 13, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tire-kicking-gvr4s-again-help/199030 "2008-08-13T16:11:18Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 15, 2008, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tire-kicking-gvr4s-again-help/199030/28 "2008-08-15T11:42:17Z")

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> [@$BET: Plane Will take off. Stake your claim](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bet-plane-will-take-off-stake-your-claim/37439/73):
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> Standard arps are no better than stock 6 bolt head bolts. they stretch just as easily but allow slightly higher torquing and even clamping due to the stud vs the bolt.
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> If you’re going to do it right get L19 studs from arp or buy the magnus/a1 studs that are also available.
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> Don’t wste money on crap. l19s with oem composite gasket + oring is the best option.

Do I really need to oring for a DD type car. I don’t mind keeping the boost lower than the 20+ mike suggested. How far can you go (boost wise) on L19s, OEM composite gasket (is there a part # I need to look for) but no orings?

-TJ

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