# Titanium at this price??? **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [September 10, 2005, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645 "2005-09-10T19:31:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![QuincyRedS14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/dbc845/32.png) [@QuincyRedS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/QuincyRedS14)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645/21 "2005-09-11T18:26:48Z")
Yeah, just the tip is titanium, thats it. piping is def. stainless. ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645/22 "2005-09-11T20:56:59Z")
> [@Jammin1911](#): > > Marky, titanium isn’t much different in appearence than stainless. The price is obviously whats throwing us off if you READ THE THREAD! 🙂 > > The weight is a good suggestion though, maybe someone should do that! Jon read up, i said look at the price and then look at the metal. And yes titanium is pretty different in appearance than it is stainless steel i think. Titanium is a lot more dull than stainless steel, i don’t think i seen titanium having a mirror finish like that as shown in the picture of the catback. But i am 100% sure that it’s not titanium. ---
**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645/23 "2005-09-11T21:13:29Z")
> [@TM](#): > > [quote=Alex]yea looks like stainless piping to a titanium muffler Not sure you can weld Ti to Stainless…[/quote] Word on the street is you can but it’s very very costly My muffler is Ti and nothings welded to it its all crimped/pressed/braced ---
**Author:** ![TM1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tm1/32/5517_2.png) [@TM1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TM1)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645/24 "2005-09-11T21:47:38Z")
> [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](#): > > [quote=TM][quote=Alex]yea looks like stainless piping to a titanium muffler Not sure you can weld Ti to Stainless…[/quote] Word on the street is you can but it’s very very costly My muffler is Ti and nothings welded to it its all crimped/pressed/braced[/quote] Yeah generally you use certain TIG welding rods for different metals and so on… For TI you might use USW Stock #4914C but for stainless you might use LAC Stock #S109 There are different welding rods for different types of metals and different ways to weld it… Generally you weld, like to like… Really you might as well flange it or do everything the same… ---
**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645/25 "2005-09-12T05:25:18Z")
> [@birdhou53](#): > > [quote=Jammin1911]Marky, titanium isn’t much different in appearence than stainless. The price is obviously whats throwing us off if you READ THE THREAD! 🙂 > > The weight is a good suggestion though, maybe someone should do that! Jon read up, i said look at the price and then look at the metal. And yes titanium is pretty different in appearance than it is stainless steel i think. Titanium is a lot more dull than stainless steel, i don’t think i seen titanium having a mirror finish like that as shown in the picture of the catback. But i am 100% sure that it’s not titanium.[/quote] Its hard to find pictures of freakin titanium exhausts… anyway, here is one: ![http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/images/txstimuffler.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/9/c/9c1c204ee27586921cbc91659b94ad81d8049315.jpeg) Although, in lots of cases you are correct Marky: ![http://store1.yimg.com/I/hopup1_1860_33949718.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/d/2daeaa8b5f19f0bc209d976c02bd6acb51b00b0a.gif) I guess they can polish it somehow to get rid of the grainy look. PS - why does every picture I found of an exhaust have a _pre_ burnt tip. That’s pretty much the lamest thing I’ve seen in a long time. Even HKS, JIC, Tanabe, etc. What is the world coming to? ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645/26 "2005-09-12T06:34:38Z")
It’s because it adds horsepower. ---
**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645/27 "2005-09-12T14:46:25Z")
> [@birdhou53](#): > > It’s because it adds horsepower. $hit so that’s why my cars soo slow… ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645/28 "2005-09-12T15:09:46Z")
> [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](#): > > [quote=birdhou53]It’s because it adds horsepower. $hit so that’s why my cars soo slow…[/quote] Yup. But if you add a burnt tip then your car will be fast. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_SG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sasha_sg/32/5477_2.png) [@Sasha\_SG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sasha_SG)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645/29 "2005-09-12T15:20:27Z")
burnt tip is the main reason i didn’t go ti its so fucking gay ---
**Author:** ![D\_Fresh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d_fresh/32/5542_2.png) [@D\_Fresh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/D_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645/30 "2005-09-12T20:18:36Z")
“Cheap chinese knockoffs. Don’t look safe to me. They ripped me off to boot!” lol sweet feedback, i think that says it all… ---
**Author:** ![BAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bas/32/5540_2.png) [@BAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BAS)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645/31 "2005-09-13T10:24:20Z")
… thier is no way that someone with the setup to Mandrel bend titanium… ( which requires allot of preheating and prep work and allot of wasted material on dilaing in the madrel shoe and plug, plus the 'double welded seams… is going to be that cheap… no way… As an examply, low end 2.5/3 Ti for a MTB frame which is high volume and in std. sizes is more then $299 for just the TUBE set… not sure how many of you are MTB or roadies but a ‘tubeset’ is the all the tubes that make up the frame. WHen polished the 2.5/3 series also has a very … ‘bronze-ish’ tone to it the only titanium that shines like stainless is 3/5 or aircraft grade… which is 3x the price of 2.5/3 ( the numbers represent Cr/V btw)… What this looks like is the std way of taking thin sheet Ti. rolling it and then seaming it to keep it’s shape they will punch Ti end plates the only pc that may be actual tubular Ti is the tip… but I don’t think so. the perf. core and tubes look to be stainless… The reasoning for this conclusion are in the first paragraph. In the end, it’s up to the customer to care on not, $299 is cheap even for stainless… but you ultimately get what you pay for… If you compare that to Ti systems from Japan or even a Ti system from Magnaflow, yes they make them, your less then 1/3 the cost of the cheapest kit. ---
**Author:** ![TekVicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@TekVicious](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TekVicious)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645/32 "2005-09-16T03:59:54Z")
The can is Ti and the rest is stainless. I know where the can is made. It’s decent, light and the welds are alright. The rest is stainless. The product is ok, it’s just a case of mis-representation over the net (ala SS Autocrap). Cheers, Rob [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/titanium-at-this-price/88645.md?page=1)