# Title question **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [January 4, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145 "2012-01-04T05:14:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sully93vr4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sully93vr4/32/6278_2.png) [@Sully93vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sully93vr4)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/1 "2012-01-04T05:14:15Z")
I want to re-title a bike that I acquired two months ago into me name. Not being registered or insured. What’s the process? Do I have to pay any sales tax? (especially if it was a trade) Fees? ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/2 "2012-01-04T05:32:38Z")
I think you still have to pay tax, as it asks if it was a trade and what was the value of the trade etc. ---
**Author:** ![Sully93vr4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sully93vr4/32/6278_2.png) [@Sully93vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sully93vr4)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/3 "2012-01-04T05:44:24Z")
Well the thing is poor cond, so I’m not paying dick in taxes. ---
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/4 "2012-01-04T05:53:42Z")
I don’t think you have to pay taxes if it was a straight trade, only if money was traded on top. Just like when you trade in a car and you do not have to pay the taxes for the value you received for your trade in. if it’s not registered you cannot insure it so i would think for just a title you may be okay ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/5 "2012-01-04T06:39:24Z")
> [@Detail guys...need help....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/10): > > I don’t think you have to pay taxes if it was a straight trade, only if money was traded on top. Just like when you trade in a car and you do not have to pay the taxes for the value you received for your trade in. if it’s not registered you cannot insure it so i would think for just a title you may be okay thats not correct. you have to pay taxes on trades private party. a trade in takes place at a dealer and is different. I know all this because i was going to trade the viper in the fall but taxes killed the deal. ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/6 "2012-01-04T06:44:00Z")
> [@CHEATERS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheaters/47680/16): > > thats not correct. > > you have to pay taxes on trades private party. a trade in takes place at a dealer and is different. I know all this because i was going to trade the viper in the fall but taxes killed the deal. Boom. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/7 "2012-01-04T06:55:34Z")
your best bet is just to say you bought it for $100 or something. The taxes you pay are based on either the book value of the item or the value of what you traded. So if I were you i’d leave the trade part right out of the paperwork and just put you paid $xxx. Where $xxx is the value of the complete piece of shit that you gave him. ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/8 "2012-01-04T07:04:00Z")
either do what wyane said or put it as gift… $100 will be $8 sales tax and gift will be $0. no ones gonna give a shit, i cant count how many times ive gifted shit from stuff ive bought from friends/family/ext ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/9 "2012-01-04T07:29:15Z")
that only works for family purchases. if its a gift from someone else you gotta pay book value tax!!! ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/10 "2012-01-04T07:39:27Z")
ive never paid book value taxes in my life on a gift and ive bought from others aside from family. ---
**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/11 "2012-01-04T07:51:18Z")
^ believe it or not, it often depends on the mood of the person at the DMV. sometimes they let it slide, other times they give you shit. If i dont get the results i want from one DMV I’ll stop the transaction and go to another. ---
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/12 "2012-01-04T08:00:07Z")
> [@CHEATERS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheaters/47680/16): > > thats not correct. > > you have to pay taxes on trades private party. a trade in takes place at a dealer and is different. I know all this because i was going to trade the viper in the fall but taxes killed the deal. yeah i didn’t even think dealer vs private party. I can see that ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/13 "2012-01-04T08:12:02Z")
> [@AUDI RS8 DESTROYED!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-rs8-destroyed/47686/3): > > ive never paid book value taxes in my life on a gift and ive bought from others aside from family. no shit… definitely worth a shot then! I just know the form says if its not fam you gotta pay book value tax. ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/14 "2012-01-04T08:39:21Z")
I actually used to put $1 and the lady says why dont you just put gift? This way you dont have to pay anything lol… i was like sureee. ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/15 "2012-01-04T09:00:27Z")
That 7-8 cents must have been killing you, Dave… ---
**Author:** ![GermanPSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/germanpsi/32/6353_2.png) [@GermanPSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GermanPSI)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/16 "2012-01-04T09:21:14Z")
Why doesn’t new owner title bike? ---
**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/17 "2012-01-04T09:53:25Z")
> [@New Here](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-here/47646/58): > > that only works for family purchases. if its a gift from someone else you gotta pay book value tax!!! This is what I was told by the DMV DragonLady at Schoharie, back when I put that pile of an rx7 on the road. ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/18 "2012-01-04T10:26:59Z")
> [@WTF GTA IV](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf-gta-iv/47687/6): > > That 7-8 cents must have been killing you, Dave… PISSED bro, had to break a $20! lol ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/19 "2012-01-04T10:32:26Z")
> [@Detail guys...need help....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/10): > > I don’t think you have to pay taxes if it was a straight trade, only if money was traded on top. Just like when you trade in a car and you do not have to pay the taxes for the value you received for your trade in. if it’s not registered you cannot insure it so i would think for just a title you may be okay You can insure anything. I’ve insured cars I’ve never even seen before before I drove down to pick them up and drive them back. Registration isn’t a prerequisite for insurance, it’s the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145/20 "2012-01-04T15:34:29Z")
You could do a ‘title only transfer’ in Arizona. I did this on the Viper when I bought it, didn’t have to pay taxes or anything, just like a 40 dollar title transfer free. Then I brought it to NY and registered it tax free… [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/title-question/262145.md?page=2)