# To Ilya: PC vs. Mac debate/contest/benchmarks

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**Created:** [January 3, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ilya-pc-vs-mac-debate-contest-benchmarks/262129 "2012-01-03T01:36:11Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 7, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ilya-pc-vs-mac-debate-contest-benchmarks/262129/108 "2012-01-07T06:50:21Z")

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> [@There was a battle in my driveway](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-was-a-battle-in-my-driveway/47739/5):
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> Meh not to impressed with Bulldozer, basically its an over exaggerated hyperthreading plus the fact that you can spend 30 bucks more and get a processor that will whoop its ass even if the 8150 is overclocked.
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> Though I’m sure working for AMD you got a discount, and your loyal so power to ya, but until AMD steps up their game I will not be returning to them.

Exactly right. In fact some programs see the 8150 as an 8130P because it’s an 8130 just with a factory overclock. It benches similar to the i5 but the top end intel chips destroy it but at up to 3 times the price. AMD’s Piledriver 10 core processor will be out in the first quarter 2012 but until Windows 8 arrives the hyperthreading between cores really can’t be fully appreciated. Overall AMD has dropped the ball.

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