# To Ls1 or not to LS1? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 9, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139 "2007-07-09T19:18:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aerosolking716](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@aerosolking716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/aerosolking716)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/1 "2007-07-09T19:18:57Z")
Hey guys, I am thinking of buying a manual transmission firebird or trans am, I found a couple, but they are all v6. I am just wondering how much work and money will it cost along with the cost of new tranny and LS1 (used, rebuilt or new)? Will there have to be major fabrication to the mounts to make the engine fit? ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/2 "2007-07-09T19:30:13Z")
Moved to GA. The internet is full of helpful information that can answer most if not all of your questions. I would recommend a forum like wnyFbody or some national Fbody forum like [mulletracer.net](http://mulletracer.net)\* or [pushrodgoatsee.com](http://pushrodgoatsee.com)\* \*Disclaimer - Not actual websites. ---
**Author:** ![matter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/97f17d/32.png) [@matter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matter)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/3 "2007-07-09T19:37:28Z")
lol check out [camaroz28.com](http://camaroz28.com) or [ls1tech.com](http://ls1tech.com) ---
**Author:** ![13005TEDGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/edb3f5/32.png) [@13005TEDGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/13005TEDGP)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/4 "2007-07-09T20:06:02Z")
Not to Hijack…how much were the V6 firebirds you found??? I’m looking to get a correct wheel drive setup for my 3800. Thanks and sorry. I dunno if you would be interested in being different (like myself) BUT, you can make the power of the LS\* engines with a turbocharged 3800. ITs actually going to be my next project. For the money, time, and money invested into a LS\* swap, you could have a turbocharged 3800 for a similiar price. Think of it as a GN I guess but a redesigned 3.8 If you are at all interested, lemmie know I got alot of info to share. PS [www.ls1tech.com](http://www.ls1tech.com) had a write-up on a LS swap into a V6 car. fwiw ---
**Author:** ![Studderin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/studderin/32/7197_2.png) [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/5 "2007-07-09T20:56:24Z")
Get a LS1. I was gona do this. You can get a 100K v6 94-97 car for 2-3K. Or a 98+ for 4-6k, to swapt to a LS1 car. I was gona get a simi beat 98+ car to gut into a shop car do. this might still be happening. Talk to Paul at PMP about this swapt, You need LS1, LS1 Kmember, LS1rack, dash harness. engine harness, fans, LS1 gas tank, trans, cross meber. Probally best to get a crashed LS1 car, then priceing all all the parts sepret if you don’t have the resources. or just get a Ls1 car, ther a lot out there with 50-70K for under 10K if you look around. I got my 01 m6 with 58K for less then 10k [http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/](http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/) edit [http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/v8swap.htm](http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/v8swap.htm) Parts Needed: ``` LS1 Engine and Transmission LS1 PCM and Wiring Harness LS1 K-Member and Motor Mounts LS1 Radiator LS1 Coolant and Heater Hoses LS1 Steering Rack and Linkage LS1 Throttle Cable Custom Fuel setup Custom Wiring Harness ``` ---
**Author:** ![Studderin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/studderin/32/7197_2.png) [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/6 "2007-07-09T21:07:28Z")
2 local cars I found in 5mins FS: 2000 Z28 $9500 best offer w/pictures automatic cloth interior T-Tops power everything traction control 78,000 Only mods are an SLP lid and hooker aero chamber cat back. It currently has black Zr1’s on it that I want to keep. I have the stock ten spoke rims to put back on. Only problem is that either set will need new tires. Brakes make a little squeak sometimes but the pads and rotors look fine and have lots of life left. Its in good overall shape. I’ve owned the car for about a month now but just want something different. I did a carfax before I bought it and its clean. I will see if I can log into my account and post it if I still can. I had to take it to the track before I decided to sell it just to see if it was faster than my old LT1. 60’ 2.029 1/8 8.513 1/4 13.159 MPH 106.42 Should make 12’s with some drag radials and a better sixty foot. PM if interested I really don’t want to sell it but doing so will help me upgrade to maybe an 02. ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/bamfer9duce/3eda_3.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/bamfer9duce/3eda_3.jpg)[/quote] \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_- * * * Asking 10K 84k miles ttops power w/l/s cloth interior(little sun faded, originally a carolina car) 6 speed the car has a little door ding(dimple) in the rear 1/4 and a paint chip about the size of a quarter above the license plate on the rear bumper for the goodies… ZO6 black motorsports 17x9.5 drilled/slotted rotors eibach pro-kit UMI lca’s relo brackets and phb pacesetter lt’s/ory/cutout/hooker catback slp lid [![](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f377/eleswonz/Picture009.jpg) ](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f377/eleswonz/Picture009.jpg) [![](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f377/eleswonz/mikesseniorpics750.jpg) ](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f377/eleswonz/mikesseniorpics750.jpg) [![](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f377/eleswonz/menmike.jpg) ](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f377/eleswonz/menmike.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![95Z28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/85e7bf/32.png) [@95Z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95Z28)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/7 "2007-07-09T23:35:05Z")
Honestly, LS1 cars are coming down in price like you wouldn’t believe, and _somewhat_ easy to find. I bought mine off of LS1tech for under market value and was well worth the wait. Why put yourself through the headache of doing the swap and dealing with the random bullshit problems that are sure to accompany it when you could just be patient and find something ready to go? Get on LS1tech and watch the classifieds…you’ll find what you’re looking for. ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/8 "2007-07-10T05:57:46Z")
I’d wait and buy an LS1 car. No headaches, time can be spent elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![psychopjv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psychopjv/32/7251_2.png) [@psychopjv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psychopjv)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/9 "2007-07-10T06:30:15Z")
there’s a t/a on there need sosme minor work and it’s $6500. buy it. I got mine on LS1tech aslo for half of book value on my car. soo… ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/10 "2007-07-10T06:46:42Z")
If you have to ask… ---
**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/11 "2007-07-10T06:50:09Z")
the market’s all over the place with these things lately, maybe due to the new bodystyle coming out soon and the LS2 just being a drop in the bucket compared to what’s to come. just wait it out and get one for cheap. it’s out there, don’t mess with OR pay for such a complicated swap. you might save a couple grand, Maybe - off the top. but there’s a good chance you’ll lose it in reliability in the end. just my .02 ---
**Author:** ![13005TEDGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/edb3f5/32.png) [@13005TEDGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/13005TEDGP)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/12 "2007-07-10T20:10:56Z")
What the hell…lmao. Nothing wrong with a turbocharged 3800. Not everyone wants to be the same. Even though the beaten path makes things cheaper and easier. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/13 "2007-07-10T21:27:29Z")
[quote=“TrueBlue,post:8,topic:32139"”] I’d wait and buy an LS1 car. No headaches, time can be spent elsewhere. [/quote] x2 They are gettin cheaper and cheaper in price to buy a TA or Z28. ---
**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/14 "2007-07-10T21:31:56Z")
buy mine! :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![13005TEDGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/edb3f5/32.png) [@13005TEDGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/13005TEDGP)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/15 "2007-07-10T21:43:42Z")
I must…stay …strong…I dont …want…the …almighty El Es engine… OK I DO I DO!!! ARGH! ---
**Author:** ![Quattro\_Krant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ac91a4/32.png) [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/16 "2007-07-11T07:17:13Z")
Why swap what you can buy factory installed? ---
**Author:** ![Firehawk853](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/firehawk853/32/7607_2.png) [@Firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Firehawk853)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/17 "2007-07-11T07:26:30Z")
Fuck the swap, get the whole car. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/18 "2007-07-11T07:30:59Z")
Buy a car with it, end of story. ---
**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/19 "2007-07-11T08:05:36Z")
[quote=“FuzzyFish,post:18,topic:32139"”] Buy a car with it, end of story. [/quote] Truth, there’s no reason why not with the price as it is these days. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139/20 "2007-07-11T09:02:23Z")
[quote=“Firehawk853,post:17,topic:32139"”] Fuck the swap, get the whole car. [/quote] Agreed :party2: [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-ls1-or-not-to-ls1/32139.md?page=2)