# Tokyo 2009: Honda CR-Z Hybrid Coming to North America Next Year **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [October 25, 2009, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830 "2009-10-25T09:42:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/1 "2009-10-25T09:42:52Z")
[![http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/gallery.php/d/94948-4/tms_crz_hi003.jpg](http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/gallery.php/d/94948-4/tms_crz_hi003.jpg)](http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/gallery.php/v/main/news/manufacturers/Honda/cr-zconcept/tms_crz_hi003.jpg.html) **Honda announced a production version of its CR-Z** **hybrid** **concept will be introduced to North America in the second half of 2010.** As the second version of the CR-Z concept was unveiled at the Tokyo Auto Show, [Honda](http://www.autoguide.com/#) announced the production version will be a sporty 2-seat hybrid, **the first hybrid car set up with a manual transmission**. **Power for the CR-Z comes from a 1.5-liter gasoline engine mated to an electric motor. This 200cc of added displacement over the 1.3-liter engine found in both the Civic Hybrid and Insight should help put more of a focus on performance.** The production version of the CR-Z will debut in January at the 2010 Detroit [Auto](http://www.autoguide.com/#) Show > **[Tokyo 2009: Honda CR-Z Hybrid Coming to North America Next Year » AutoGuide.com...](http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2009/10/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year.html)** > > Honda announced a production version of its CR-Z hybrid concept will be introduced to North America in the second half of 2010. As the second version of the CR-Z concept was unveiled at the Tokyo Auto Show, Honda announced the production version will... ![http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/94898-4/tms_crz_hi001.jpg](http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/94898-4/tms_crz_hi001.jpg) [![http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/94916-4/tms_crz_hi006.jpg](http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/94916-4/tms_crz_hi006.jpg)](http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/gallery.php/?g2_view=largephotos.Largephotos&g2_itemId=94914) ![http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/94940-4/tms_crz_hi005.jpg](http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/94940-4/tms_crz_hi005.jpg) ![http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/94907-4/tms_crz_hi004.jpg](http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/94907-4/tms_crz_hi004.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![swaiknow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/swaiknow/32/6359_2.png) [@swaiknow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/swaiknow)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/2 "2009-10-25T09:46:46Z")
2010 CRX hybird?? **SWEET!!!** ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/3 "2009-10-25T09:49:47Z")
Looks really cool. I hate concept cars but this actually looks like it’ll be a decent car. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/4 "2009-10-25T09:50:40Z")
srsly considering one of these. ---
**Author:** ![GD3Skier](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gd3skier/32/6400_2.png) [@GD3Skier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GD3Skier)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/5 "2009-10-25T10:11:11Z")
I thought the 1st gen insights were available with a 5 speed, no? And 1.5L eh? I wonder if its gonna be a variation of the L15 in my car? ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/6 "2009-10-25T11:16:29Z")
yes, the g1 insight has a 5 speed. not sure why they said the cr-z would be the first…there is a ton of info out on the new cr-z. it’s not really a concept car anymore. it’s expected to hit japanese dealers in the beginning of 2010. CR-Z: Length: 160.6 in. Width: 68.5 in. Height: 53.1 in. Wheelbase: 95.9 in. Civic Coupe: Length: 175.5 in. Width: 68.9 in. Height: 55.0 in. Wheelbase: 104.3 in. 91 CRX: Length: 148.4 in. Width: 65.7 in. Height: 50.1 in. Wheelbase: 90.6 in. 2001-2006 Insight Wheelbase 2,400 mm (94 in) Length 3,945 mm (155.3 in) Width 1,695 mm (66.7 in) Height 1,355 mm (53.3 in) and more pics/info > **[Tokyo Preview: Near-production Honda CR-Z "Concept" unveiled](https://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/30/tokyo-preview-near-production-honda-cr-z-concept-unveiled/)** > > 2009 Honda CR-Z Concept - Click above for high-res image gallery > > > One of the most highly anticipated new model releases scheduled to debut at the upcomi [http://vtec.net/forums/one-message?message\_id=855782&news\_item\_id=855218](http://vtec.net/forums/one-message?message_id=855782&news_item_id=855218) ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/7 "2009-10-25T11:29:44Z")
the need to make a version with a k series :rofl ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/8 "2009-10-25T11:37:07Z")
REALLLLY cool. ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/9 "2009-10-25T12:41:55Z")
Id rock the shit out of that thing ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/10 "2009-10-25T12:53:56Z")
im k20 swappin that thing ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/11 "2009-10-25T13:18:07Z")
> **2011 Honda CR-Z: 21st-Century CRX** > ``` > Honda's Upcoming Two-Seater is Designed to Prove Hybrids Can be Fun > February 09, 2009 > / By Paul Horrell > > [Honda](http://www.motortrend.com/new_cars/01/honda/index.html)'s CR-Z hybrid coupe remains on track as a 2011 model, on sale in late 2010. Honda wants sports-car enthusiasts to buy it not because it's green, but because it's fun. The carmaker considered doing a non-hybrid version of the CR-Z, but it desperately wants to be seen as a hybrid supplier on par with [Toyota](http://www.motortrend.com/new_cars/01/toyota/index.html) and believes it needs a range of dedicated hybrid-only models to achieve that. > > ``` > > So the CR-Z gets a lively 140-horse, 1.8-liter [Civic](http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2010/honda/civic/index.html)-derived engine. The IMA system – motor, battery, electronics – will be like the [Insight](http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2010/honda/insight/index.html)’s, as will the platform, to save cost. A senior engineer says, “It must be fun to drive, must remind you of the original CRX.” And a manual gearbox will be offered. “CVT is fine for the market, mostly. But we are Honda! We must have a manual!” > As a two-seater, the CR-Z’s smaller body mass versus the Insight should make up for the weight of the bigger engine, brakes, and tires. So a **2800-pound total** , with lots of electric-assist torque and a revvy gasoline engine, should make it the real deal as a pocket performance coupe. > Honda has trimmed back its sports cars. President Takeo Fukui said the company has canceled the Acura NSX replacement, though engineers say it may simply be deferred. And the rear-drive [Acura](http://www.motortrend.com/new_cars/01/acura/index.html) range has been canceled. Honda is out of Formula 1. **So the CR-Z must be to Honda in the 2010s what the CRX was to Honda in the 1980s.** > > The other leg of Honda’s small-car hybrid tripod, the [Fit](http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2010/honda/fit/index.html) hybrid, also is going ahead for a '10 release. To give the Insight a lower overall height than the Fit, for reduced aero drag at highway speeds, the fuel tank was moved from under the front seats in the Fit to under the rear seats in the Insight. Speeds in the EPA test aren’t high enough to make aerodynamics a factor, so the Fit hybrid may match the Insight’s fuel economy label, and offer more space and versatility, for less money. It will interesting to see how the marketing guys handle that one. You guys all know I’m a Crx fanatic around these parts, I still own 1.5 of them without even being able to drive them. I’ve always bashed the replacement of the Crx because it will never have the charisma and the feel of the original. Original is a cult car for a damn good reason. However that 2800 pound weight is a bit lighter then I’ve expected for it to be, and if it can be, especially with all the modern safety requirements. If you can get the weight down into 2500 pound range, by removing the stupid electric motor and the battery pack that goes with it, carbon parts, lighter wheels etc, it actually has potential to be well… fun :eek ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/12 "2009-10-25T13:27:54Z")
i wont believe the 2800 lbs weight until release. that article is also wrong in stating it will come with an 1.8 L when it fact everyone else has been saying 1.5L. ---
**Author:** ![GD3Skier](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gd3skier/32/6400_2.png) [@GD3Skier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GD3Skier)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/13 "2009-10-25T15:44:01Z")
> [@THIS is how to do a burnout](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-how-to-do-a-burnout/24846/11): > > [b] > > If you can get the weight down into 2500 pound range, by removing the stupid electric motor and the battery pack that goes with it, carbon parts, lighter wheels etc, it actually has potential to be well… fun :eek You mean something like a Honda Fit? :tongue ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/14 "2009-10-25T16:25:54Z")
> [@New Rant: Gas level indicators.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-rant-gas-level-indicators/24881/11): > > You mean something like a Honda Fit? :tongue :lol was wondering when you’re going to chime in. Yes a Honda fit at the moment is the closest relative to the CRX in the Honda family. Cheap MSRP, “Sport” trim level which comes with mild upgrades, fun to drive out of the box and plenty of room inside making it very useful. Add to that good engine swap potential and “light” body stock, and you’ve got game. Still too many doors and seats though :tongue ---
**Author:** ![GD3Skier](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gd3skier/32/6400_2.png) [@GD3Skier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GD3Skier)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/15 "2009-10-25T17:25:12Z")
Mine has no rear seats ha ha. I personally don’t like the sport trim on the GD3 aside from the body add ons and the alloys. There’s too much gay shit on the interior I dont like, like colored accent lights and such, its kinda tacky IMO, ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/16 "2009-10-25T17:27:22Z")
I foresee the MSRP will be the deal breaker. ![http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217500.jpg](http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217500.jpg) ![http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217501.jpg](http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217501.jpg) ![http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217502.jpg](http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217502.jpg) ![http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217503.jpg](http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217503.jpg) ![http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217504.jpg](http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217504.jpg) ![http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217505.jpg](http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217505.jpg) ![http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217506.jpg](http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217506.jpg) ![http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217507.jpg](http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217507.jpg) ![http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217508.jpg](http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217508.jpg) ![http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217509.jpg](http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217509.jpg) ![http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217510.jpg](http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217510.jpg) ![http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217511.jpg](http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217511.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/17 "2009-10-25T21:28:48Z")
looks like the rear passengers are gonna get their shit rocked by those speakers :rofl :rofl ![http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217507.jpg](http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/103074/217507.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![dc2nick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dc2nick/32/6289_2.png) [@dc2nick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dc2nick)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/18 "2009-10-25T22:08:48Z")
sick. id rock it as it sits ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/19 "2009-10-25T22:13:37Z")
> [@Ok, who is the idiot that crashed his WRX on Sheradin this morning?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-who-is-the-idiot-that-crashed-his-wrx-on-sheradin-this-morning/24905/6): > > looks like the rear passengers are gonna get their shit rocked by those speakers :rofl :rofl Actually to think of it. Didn’t they say it was going to be a 2 seater :ponder > [Honda](http://www.autoguide.com/#) announced the production version will be a sporty 2-seat hybrid, This is a “near production” concept so the amount of seats should have been finalized by now. ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830/20 "2009-10-25T22:57:01Z")
like the MK1 and MK2 crx’s Europe and Japan had backseats and the US did not…all the pictures you see are for a Japanese spec CR-Z. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-next-year/247830.md?page=2)