# Tonawanda- one of the best places in America to raise kids?? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 18, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289 "2009-11-18T18:13:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/1 "2009-11-18T18:13:33Z")
hate to see the worst- [http://realestate.yahoo.com/promo/americas-best-place-to-raise-your-kids.html](http://realestate.yahoo.com/promo/americas-best-place-to-raise-your-kids.html) ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/2 "2009-11-18T18:20:14Z")
God damn it. Why does everybody in Buffalo have a fucking cutter mentality? Being rated as a great place to raise kids is a “good” thing to feel “happy” about. ---
**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/3 "2009-11-18T18:42:26Z")
I’m still blown away that the median household income is so low. I thought it would be higher. IMHO 63K a year is NOT enough to live on for a family. How the hell can anyone afford to do ANYTHING? ---
**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/4 "2009-11-18T18:51:30Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > God damn it. Why does everybody in Buffalo have a fucking cutter mentality? > > Being rated as a great place to raise kids is a “good” thing to feel “happy” about. you Tonawanda folks :smash2: I wonder if they mean the Erie county side or the Niagara county side :eyebrow: seriously spend an afternoon at Canal Days , frequent one of the local bars or pick up the local police blog and then tell me how you cant wait for your kids to grow up there :purextc: disclaimer- not saying its better or worse than anywhere else in WNY but on a national level??! come on ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/5 "2009-11-18T18:54:57Z")
isn’t the niagara side the City of Tonawanda…I live in the town…great step up from cheektovegas and will probably be where I buy a house. ---
**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/6 "2009-11-18T19:21:21Z")
Niagara is North Tonawanda ---
**Author:** ![Boomin99GT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boomin99gt/32/7306_2.png) [@Boomin99GT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boomin99GT)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/7 "2009-11-18T19:24:15Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > God damn it. Why does everybody in Buffalo have a fucking cutter mentality? > > Being rated as a great place to raise kids is a “good” thing to feel “happy” about. LOL that’s exactly what I was thinking. With all the negative things people say about WNY this should be something to celebrate. ---
**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/8 "2009-11-18T20:21:09Z")
> [@Boomin99GT](#): > > LOL that’s exactly what I was thinking. With all the negative things people say about WNY this should be something to celebrate. :word: The Buffalo region is getting a lot of attention lately. Extreme House Makeover, Diners Drive-ins, and Dives, Anthony Bourdain, No Reservations, Kenmore in the top 10 neighborhoods, Tonawanda in the top places to raise a family. We won’t include Wife Swap in the list 🙂 Positive light is something we need in this area. This area is great, yes it has it’s negatives, but if everyone has the WNY sucks mentality, then it’s not going to get anywhere. If you live here, why not strive to make it better? If you don’t like it, move. One more job for someone that wants to stay in the area. ---
**Author:** ![irocmick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/irocmick/32/7425_2.png) [@irocmick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/irocmick)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/9 "2009-11-20T04:26:35Z")
it sounds like they are talking about the town of tonawanda. it mentioned kenmore schools and the town and kenmore are the same school district. ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/10 "2009-11-20T05:26:58Z")
Although I will probably end up starting my life in Tonawanda (first 5 to 10 years into my career), its not a place I would say that id prefer raising my kids in. Not a bad place, but definitely not the best in the nation lol… For the value of cost of living in this area though, you cant beat it imho. ---
**Author:** ![breakstuff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breakstuff/32/5413_2.png) [@breakstuff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/breakstuff)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/11 "2009-11-20T06:04:03Z")
From what i’ve heard and observed, some of Buffalo’s ghetto trash is slowly creeping into the City of Tonawanda. ---
**Author:** ![d3x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@d3x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d3x)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/12 "2009-11-20T06:16:26Z")
> [@breakstuff](#): > > From what i’ve heard and observed, some of Buffalo’s ghetto trash is slowly creeping into the City of Tonawanda. I dunno what you have observed but crime is non-existent in Tonawanda. The overbearing police force will not stand for ghetto antics. The education system is good, the housing is affordable and the residents for the most part will always lend a helping hand. Tonawanda is a great place to raise a family. I don’t understand all the hate. ---
**Author:** ![Geoff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geoff/32/6104_2.png) [@Geoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geoff)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/13 "2009-11-20T06:28:31Z")
Town of Tonawanda ≠ City of Tonawanda ---
**Author:** ![breakstuff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breakstuff/32/5413_2.png) [@breakstuff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/breakstuff)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/14 "2009-11-20T07:02:35Z")
> [@d3x](#): > > I dunno what you have observed but crime is non-existent in Tonawanda. The overbearing police force will not stand for ghetto antics. The education system is good, the housing is affordable and the residents for the most part will always lend a helping hand. Tonawanda is a great place to raise a family. I don’t understand all the hate. Very true, I’m not trying to hate. I grew up in Tonawanda, and have no major complaints… just some of the the housing projects - :picard: ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/15 "2009-11-20T07:07:29Z")
> Runners-up: Irondequoit, Cheektowaga Really? How is Hamburg / Amherst / OP not better then Tonawanda / Irondequit / Cheektowaga? > Cheektowaga: > According to government data, the average salary for jobs in Cheektowaga, New York is $35,090, and the median income of households in Cheektowaga was $43,345. > Education > Less than 9th grade 4% > 9th to 12th grade, no diploma 12% > High school graduate 37% > Some college, no degree 18% > Associate’s degree 13% > Bachelor’s degree 10% > Graduate degree 6% So after taxes the average family makes $30K per year?! LoL > Tonawanda: > According to government data, the average salary for jobs in Tonawanda, New York is $33,304, and the median income of households in Tonawanda was $41,332. > Education > Less than 9th grade 3% > 9th to 12th grade, no diploma 10% > High school graduate 31% > Some college, no degree 21% > Associate’s degree 9% > Bachelor’s degree 17% > Graduate degree 10% This is where I’m living now for comparison. > The Woodlands Tx > According to government data, the average salary for jobs in The Woodlands, Texas is $61,510, and the median income of households in The Woodlands was $85,314. > Education > Less than 9th grade 0% > 9th to 12th grade, no diploma 2% > High school graduate 10% > Some college, no degree 20% > Associate’s degree 9% > Bachelor’s degree 39% > Graduate degree 20% ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/16 "2009-11-20T07:30:21Z")
where did you get that data? ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/17 "2009-11-20T07:39:16Z")
> [@93dx--hatch](#): > > where did you get that data? [http://www.simplyhired.com/a/local-jobs/city/l-the+woodlands%2C+TX](http://www.simplyhired.com/a/local-jobs/city/l-the+woodlands%2C+TX) I didn’t look into their source, I am assuming it is close to correct. ---
**Author:** ![breakstuff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breakstuff/32/5413_2.png) [@breakstuff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/breakstuff)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/18 "2009-11-20T07:40:59Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > Really? How is Hamburg / Amherst / OP not better then Tonawanda / Irondequit / Cheektowaga? well for one, our houses don’t sink…:gotme: ---
**Author:** ![micah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/micah/32/7257_2.png) [@micah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/micah)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/19 "2009-11-20T07:47:35Z")
> [@d3x](#): > > I dunno what you have observed but crime is non-existent in Tonawanda. The overbearing police force will not stand for ghetto antics. The education system is good, the housing is affordable and the residents for the most part will always lend a helping hand. Tonawanda is a great place to raise a family. I don’t understand all the hate. true, i left the keys IN my del sol for 5 years in the street, doors open…i was so lazy yet confident! ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289/20 "2009-11-20T08:38:30Z")
> [@breakstuff](#): > > well for one, our houses don’t sink…:gotme: Has there been a rash of sinking houses I don’t know about? Unless someone back filled lots and built on them, then topography of the western ny region is generally pretty consistent. I didn’t know of any local (hamburg) swamps turning into subdivisions, but then again I haven’t looked into it either. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonawanda-one-of-the-best-places-in-america-to-raise-kids/76289.md?page=2)