# top gear american muscle cars

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [February 15, 2009, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860 "2009-02-15T06:43:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![SixSpeed454SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SixSpeed454SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SixSpeed454SS)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/21 "2009-02-21T08:55:20Z")

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Today, I watched this again on this past week’s show (Tivo). It was edited, though. No burnout competition.

Impressive 0-176 mph in 1 mile on the salt. The ZR1 is so bad ass.

The Challenger is boring, compared to the Caddy & the ZR1. I used to like it, but I’m quickly starting to dislike it.

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**Author:** ![jph102900](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jph102900/32/6049_2.png) [@jph102900](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jph102900)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/22 "2009-02-21T09:19:53Z")

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> [@garbled text on first boot... video card a POS?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/garbled-text-on-first-boot-video-card-a-pos/39682/4):
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> Today, I watched this again on this past week’s show (Tivo). It was edited, though. No burnout competition.

I noticed that too. I was watching it this morning on the DVR before work and I wanted to see the CTS-V crash into the weeds again and it never happened.

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**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/23 "2009-02-21T12:58:27Z")

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> [@garbled text on first boot... video card a POS?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/garbled-text-on-first-boot-video-card-a-pos/39682/4):
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> Today, I watched this again on this past week’s show (Tivo). It was edited, though. No burnout competition.
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> Impressive 0-176 mph in 1 mile on the salt. The ZR1 is so bad ass.
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> The Challenger is boring, compared to the Caddy & the ZR1. I used to like it, but I’m quickly starting to dislike it.

The new SRT-8’s have manuals now… :dunno:

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**Author:** ![SixSpeed454SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SixSpeed454SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SixSpeed454SS)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/24 "2009-02-21T13:57:43Z")

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> [@What's the difference between a porcupine and a BMW \*Pics on page 2\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-the-difference-between-a-porcupine-and-a-bmw-pics-on-page-2/38954/55):
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> The new SRT-8’s have manuals now… :dunno:

I know. Don’t matter, still an overweight, oversized, boring Chrysler product. I finally had a chance to sit in one at the auto show & I was even more dissatisfied with it. It was the ‘one’ for me of the recent ‘retro’ muscle cars, based on what I’ve read & how it looks. I’ll take an '04-'06 GTO anyday over it.

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**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/25 "2009-02-22T03:19:35Z")

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> [@SixSpeed454SS"](#):
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> I know. Don’t matter, still an overweight, oversized, boring Chrysler product. I finally had a chance to sit in one at the auto show & I was even more dissatisfied with it. It was the ‘one’ for me of the recent ‘retro’ muscle cars, based on what I’ve read & how it looks. I’ll take an '04-'06 GTO anyday over it.

what? you dont like the carbon fiber sticker racing stripes?

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**Author:** ![SixSpeed454SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SixSpeed454SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SixSpeed454SS)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/26 "2009-02-23T19:55:24Z")

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> [@WTB: Big Block](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-big-block/39693/2):
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> what? you dont like the carbon fiber sticker racing stripes?

Nope. I think the R/T is better/cleaner looking than the SRT anyway.

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**Author:** ![NeonVenom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e68b1a/32.png) [@NeonVenom](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NeonVenom)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/27 "2009-02-23T21:43:22Z")

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> [@SixSpeed454SS"](#):
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> I’ll take an '04-'06 GTO anyday over it.

eh, the gto’s were Very Over-Hyped as well, i was definately not impressed with them slapping a goat sticker on a Vauxhall, Really the ls2 is the only thing that saves it from being really bad, not that im saying the challenger is that much better, but at least they did something new, and kept the Older Styling, Great vid though, Prob. my favorite top gear yet

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**Author:** ![SixSpeed454SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SixSpeed454SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SixSpeed454SS)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/28 "2009-02-24T18:27:45Z")

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> [@Year end / Christmas Bonus...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/year-end-christmas-bonus/39547/107):
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> eh, the gto’s were Very Over-Hyped as well, i was definately not impressed with them slapping a goat sticker on a Vauxhall, Really the ls2 is the only thing that saves it from being really bad, not that im saying the challenger is that much better, but at least they did something new, and kept the Older Styling, Great vid though, Prob. my favorite top gear yet

Have you driven a 2004-2006 GTO? Don’t tell me it was overhyped until you drive it. I wouldn’t say it was overhyped, either. There really was no hype about it. Kind of it’s problem in the states - everybody thought it was a GP. It’s a Holden Monaro, not a Vauxhall (Vauxhall just used the platform in europe, but they did not design it. Probably one of the best GM cars in a long time. It is far better than the challenger in terms of build quality. Retro styling FTL. I’ll take a 4dr G8 GT over a Challenger.

I owned a 2004 GTO & wish I still had it, but life gets in the way of hot rods sometimes.

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**Author:** ![flyinglow57](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/flyinglow57/32/5978_2.png) [@flyinglow57](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/flyinglow57)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/29 "2009-02-24T18:44:20Z")

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> [@What's the difference between a porcupine and a BMW \*Pics on page 2\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-the-difference-between-a-porcupine-and-a-bmw-pics-on-page-2/38954/64):
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> I owned a 2004 GTO & wish I still had it, but life gets in the way of hot rods sometimes.

i guess thats why you have a GTO and a reg cab stick pickup :bigok:

i know i konw different times i guess

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**Author:** ![SixSpeed454SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SixSpeed454SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SixSpeed454SS)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/30 "2009-02-24T19:14:53Z")

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> [@What's the difference between a porcupine and a BMW \*Pics on page 2\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-the-difference-between-a-porcupine-and-a-bmw-pics-on-page-2/38954/65):
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> i guess thats why you have a GTO and a reg cab stick pickup :bigok:
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> i know i konw different times i guess

The pickup I have owned for 18+ years. The '66 GTO works great as a family car, just not a DD.

I don’t own a DD. I rock a company -owned POS for free. The old lady couldn’t drive the 6spd GTO, so it got traded in on a Acura TL.

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**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/31 "2009-02-25T13:24:06Z")

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I dont understand why they dident use the viper? Wouldent this be a better matchup with the ZR1?

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/32 "2009-02-25T15:56:01Z")

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> [@Canon EOS 30D easy questions; digital rebel](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/canon-eos-30d-easy-questions-digital-rebel/39718/2):
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> I dont understand why they dident use the viper? Wouldent this be a better matchup with the ZR1?

viper\>vette

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**Author:** ![AeroKing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/aeroking/32/6011_2.png) [@AeroKing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AeroKing)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/33 "2009-02-27T05:54:04Z")

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typical faggot ass Brit never turned traction control off before. I like Tiff better then those guys

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**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/34 "2009-02-27T11:05:28Z")

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> [@hitman](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hitman/33902/48):
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> typical faggot ass Brit never turned traction control off before. I like Tiff better then those guys

:ugh2:

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**Author:** ![robry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/robry/32/3363_2.png) [@robry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/robry)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/35 "2009-03-03T15:07:36Z")

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> [@Canon EOS 30D easy questions; digital rebel](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/canon-eos-30d-easy-questions-digital-rebel/39718/2):
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> I dont understand why they dident use the viper? Wouldent this be a better matchup with the ZR1?

I was under the impression that they barely even were going to get the charger srt-8. Infact they had to BUY the one in the video because Chrysler didn’t want to give them one to test. I dunno if they sold it yet or not, but I know there was some discussion on another forum about them auctioning it off. I do believe a viper would have been a much better comparison though.

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**Author:** ![SixSpeed454SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SixSpeed454SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SixSpeed454SS)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/36 "2009-03-03T16:15:35Z")

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^^ It’s a Challenger SRT-8. Charger is a 4 door.

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**Author:** ![robry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/robry/32/3363_2.png) [@robry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/robry)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/37 "2009-03-03T16:26:07Z")

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you’re right, that’s what I meant.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_WS6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Silver\_WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver_WS6)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/38 "2009-03-03T21:24:48Z")

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> [@Ice Bowl meet?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ice-bowl-meet/39662/16):
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> viper\>vette

have you drove a srt 10 viper recently ?  
its JUNK it rattled more than a 10 year old GM

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-american-muscle-cars/201860/39 "2009-03-04T15:52:58Z")

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> [@Silver\_WS6"](#):
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> have you drove a srt 10 viper recently ?  
> its JUNK it rattled more than a 10 year old GM

nope, never drove one.

and it’s a sports car, not a caddy. who cares if it rattles.

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