# top or bottom

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-or-bottom/125631>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [June 23, 2009, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-or-bottom/125631 "2009-06-23T11:53:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![frankduxx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/frankduxx/32/5647_2.png) [@frankduxx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/frankduxx)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-or-bottom/125631/1 "2009-06-23T11:53:05Z")

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when buying a exhaust manifold what would be best?  
top or bottom mount  
im assumong that with top mount one would have to change down pipe  
other then that any other modifications and would it make more power as compared to bottom or is it more for someone with big turbo who needs more room

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**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-or-bottom/125631/2 "2009-06-23T12:10:44Z")

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clearance and ram length.

I’m sure someone will cue in and clear it up 100%.

Power wise…for a regular top mount to regular bottom mount. No power difference.

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**Author:** ![jed240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a4c791/32.png) [@jed240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jed240)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-or-bottom/125631/3 "2009-06-23T12:43:28Z")

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Might be marginally less as air is being pushed up against gravity & travelling back a little further down the downpipe exhaust.  
Otherwise centre of gravity is a little higher with a topmount.  
I have heard that topmounts run a little hotter, but it could be just because of a bigger turbo.  
All the above are just my assumptions/opinions etc. So someone might know better.

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**Author:** ![Ciaran](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ciaran/32/5612_2.png) [@Ciaran](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ciaran)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-or-bottom/125631/4 "2009-06-23T13:02:38Z")

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top mount looks cooler. i want one.

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**Author:** ![B\_Hebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@B\_Hebert](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/B_Hebert)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-or-bottom/125631/5 "2009-06-23T13:08:56Z")

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Most t2 series manifolds unless custom made are al bottom mount. T3 t4 series are all top mount. If ur lookibg for big power then go top mount.

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**Author:** ![91S131](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91s131/32/5732_2.png) [@91S131](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91S131)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-or-bottom/125631/6 "2009-06-23T19:52:41Z")

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also depends on turbo too

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**Author:** ![R33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f8ce5/32.png) [@R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/R33)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-or-bottom/125631/7 "2009-06-25T00:51:32Z")

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> [@frankduxx"](#):
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> more for someone with big turbo who needs more room

^ exactly

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**Author:** ![purposebuilt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90ced4/32.png) [@purposebuilt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/purposebuilt)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-or-bottom/125631/8 "2009-06-25T05:02:01Z")

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Top mounts make it a hell of alot easier to work on the car and make any changes to the turbo if required… a bottom mount is hell to work on…

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**Author:** ![Stiky](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stiky/32/5692_2.png) [@Stiky](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stiky)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-or-bottom/125631/9 "2009-06-25T08:37:31Z")

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> [@Refreshed Subaru Legacy and Outback](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/refreshed-subaru-legacy-and-outback/22748/8):
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> Top mounts make it a hell of alot easier to work on the car and make any changes to the turbo if required… a bottom mount is hell to work on…

+1

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**Author:** ![Hurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hurricane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hurricane)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-or-bottom/125631/10 "2009-06-25T10:17:16Z")

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If it will fit bottom mount… go bottom. Its SOOO much cleaner and more compact…

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**Author:** ![lopez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9adbd/32.png) [@lopez](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lopez)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-or-bottom/125631/11 "2009-06-25T10:40:07Z")

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> [@Remember Cuban "I cant pay my bills" crisis?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remember-cuban-i-cant-pay-my-bills-crisis/22769/11):
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> If it will fit bottom mount… go TOP. Its SOOO much cleaner and more compact…

fixed.

topmount is for sexytime only 😃
