# (topic split) MPD47 vs SoloIIScoob; re: The Blue's E30 **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 1, 2009, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762 "2009-04-01T10:54:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/201 "2009-04-07T13:20:58Z")
I just read this entire thread, and I don’t know why. ---
**Author:** ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/202 "2009-04-07T13:24:48Z")
“You blew the motor mishitting multiple times, that is being cluelessly ballsy.” “mis-shifted the car twice after all that auto-x and street driving?” lol you guys have no idea how many s2000 owners have done this more than once as well, and not even counting the ENDLESS MORE experienced people who have mis-shifted and popped motors in the entire past history of the automotive world. but im the only one who has an entire forum giving me shit for it. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/203 "2009-04-07T13:26:09Z")
we give skunk shit for it everyday That happened years ago. See what you have to look forward to? ---
**Author:** ![copperlegend](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/copperlegend/32/7445_2.png) [@copperlegend](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/copperlegend)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/204 "2009-04-07T13:26:23Z")
> [@SoloIIscoob](#): > > “You blew the motor mishitting multiple times, that is being cluelessly ballsy.” > “mis-shifted the car twice after all that auto-x and street driving?” > > lol you guys have no idea how many s2000 owners have done this more than once as well, and not even counting the ENDLESS MORE experienced people who have mis-shifted and popped motors in the entire past history of the automotive world. but im the only one who has an entire forum giving me shit for it. You just don’t get it, do you? ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/205 "2009-04-07T13:26:54Z")
> [@SoloIIscoob](#): > > at any other event safety officials would have pulled me off immediately, if i had been as bad as they say i was. unfortunately we self monitor at these events. The guy watching the entire track is just that, a guy. We don’t have any sort of “safety officials” just someone with a flag that has tha authority to pull you if THEY THINK you do something wrong. After that, it is up to the 3-4 people that are running the rest of the show to determine if you need to be booted. On a small track day you would have been booted. On a day as hectic as the Summer start with 50+ people there you slid through the cracks, and mike was willing to let it slide untill you came here and started posting shit about an organization whos sole purpose is to give enthusiasts what they desire! ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/206 "2009-04-07T13:27:19Z")
> [@SoloIIscoob](#): > > “You blew the motor mishitting multiple times, that is being cluelessly ballsy.” > “mis-shifted the car twice after all that auto-x and street driving?” > > lol you guys have no idea how many s2000 owners have done this more than once as well, and not even counting the ENDLESS MORE experienced people who have mis-shifted and popped motors in the entire past history of the automotive world. but im the only one who has an entire forum giving me shit for it. You dont mis shift if you know what your doing. How many people have we had out at dunnville in S2K’s that have never had any issues pulling blistering times and never popping a motor ? Try again. ---
**Author:** ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/207 "2009-04-07T13:27:22Z")
> [@Tunerfreak](#): > > yeah and i also remember you being an asshat at auto-x too cause you bragged about drifting around the one light pole at ECCN and posting the video of it up on here yup. this is being an asshat: [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-476834616230526011](http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-476834616230526011) im pretty sure this run got me second in class that day, over someone i wont name who put their car into the curb and ruined their suspension AND had insurance cover it, but you guys were all hush hush about that. but im a terrible guy and driver as well so i dont matter ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/208 "2009-04-07T13:30:32Z")
> [@SoloIIscoob](#): > > yup. this is being an asshat: > [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-476834616230526011](http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-476834616230526011) i dont know if that is the one it was a while back but i thought it was going in the other direction ---
**Author:** ![bigwoode](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigwoode/32/5175_2.png) [@bigwoode](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bigwoode)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/209 "2009-04-07T13:31:13Z")
I don’t know too many people on here, so this thread doesnt hit home for me. Hopefully you guys can reconcile your differences. > [@MOBOOST4U](#): > > I guess the way I have always looked at it, is that I would love a place that facilitated growth (and by growth I mean size of the community, the users knowledge, the users diversity, the users appreciation, etc) of this regions general love for autos. > > The problem is, nyspeed is a friends forum and all of you OG’s are comfortable with who you have and what you do. There is no incentive to invite new people around and keep them here, but what about when you are all 30 or 35, have families and begin to ditch cars (or your minds consuumption of them) Who wil be left? Well, youll be gone then so obviously you dont care, but I would love to be the 28 year old helping out the 18 year olds who want to “kit their honduh,” rather than telling them “your a fucking idiot diaf.” The most worth while post so far IMO. ---
**Author:** ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/210 "2009-04-07T13:31:49Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > unfortunately we self monitor at these events. The guy watching the entire track is just that, a guy. We don’t have any sort of “safety officials” just someone with a flag that has tha authority to pull you if THEY THINK you do something wrong. After that, it is up to the 3-4 people that are running the rest of the show to determine if you need to be booted. On a small track day you would have been booted. On a day as hectic as the Summer start with 50+ people there you slid through the cracks, and mike was willing to let it slide untill you came here and started posting shit about an organization whos sole purpose is to give enthusiasts what they desire! lol yea cause im here blasting onyxsyndicate. ---
**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/211 "2009-04-07T13:31:57Z")
> [@IanK](#): > > You dont mis shift if you know what your doing. How many people have we had out at dunnville in S2K’s that have never had any issues pulling blistering times and never popping a motor ? Try again. Eh race car drivers still mis-shift, It can happen to anyone no matter the skill. Not to excuse solo of all the other bullshit but it’s pointless to keep harping on this point. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/212 "2009-04-07T13:32:37Z")
**For those that may still view SoloIIscoob as a victim, I though I’d put this out there so that there isn’t any confusion about our position. I did not go into details when this happened last year because SoloIIscoob was moving out of state and I figured there was no reason to make it public since he wouldn’t be around anymore. But since he’s still here and some members may buy into his victim mentality, I’ll make this public for everyone:** 1. He started off the day fighting to get his corolla into first position behind the camera on the filmed cruise. Once there, he constantly swerved left and right for MILES. Maybe he thought it would look cool on camera, but it just pissed everyone off… especially MPD47 who was the lead truck, pulling a trailer. 2. When he got to the track, he discovered he was in the beginner group and that hurt his ego. So he tried to ask around if he could be moved into group A, but everyone said talk to me. 3. He tried to prove he was more experienced than us by criticizing our flagging and telling Rick (RX3) he wasn’t being safe standing where he was. Obviously, that only pissed Rick, MPD47 and GSX off who were doing a great job. 4. His first few laps out, I got a radio call from the track coordinator asking me to have a talk with the “kid in the yellow S2000” because he was following too close, went off course but didn’t come straight in, and almost had an impact with the green neon. When he came in from those laps, I told him he needed to watch his distance but his response was something along the lines of “I’m confident in my driving.” This was actually the 2nd time since the day started that Dunnville staff noted his reckless driving. 5. Then he came over to me asking for a refund for his money he paid for the full season ($400) because he decided he was going to move out of state. I’ve said clearly countless times that I do NOT give refunds. Once you give me the money, I give it to the track so I don’t have any money to give you. 6. He also complained that he only had 5 laps before lunch. I explained to him that before lunch you’re not going to get many laps. It’s the full session AFTER lunch where you really get in your track time. Somehow everyone else understood that except him and clocked several hours of lapping time after lunch. 7. When he asked me why he was in the beginner group, I told him it was because no one had ever seen him drive, so no one could affirm if he was to the same level as those who were already in the advanced group. “But I signed up for Advanced, and _I’m pretty confident_ in my driving and I know what I’m doing.” First off, no one signed up for any group. Our staff placed you where we thought you fit best, and obviously made the right choice because you went off course and didn’t come right in, AND you were driving way too close to another car when we’ve said countless times that this isn’t a race. “What does it matter?” It matters that MY name is on the lease for today, so it’s MY obligation to have a safe event and MY liability if something bad happens. **I usually wouldn’t post PM conversations, but they were from last year and the whole NYSpeed staff has already read them:** > [@Onyx Z32](#): > > Your inability to admit your mistakes, listen to the rules and check your ego at the door and online means we have to ban you from the track. This isn’t just our decision, but the decision of the track’s too as the coordinator also felt you were driving unsafe. > > As I said before there are no refunds. The only option you have is to sell all the spots you have if you want to make your money back. Put up a FS add here on NYSpeed; there are plenty of people who are willing to buy your spots. > > ~ Josh > [@SoloIIscoob](#): > > whatever dude thats a fucking joke. ill drive the fucking 8 hours to use my spots regardless of whether or not you want me to. > > i won the first ever time attack at moroso for a reason and even my boss said i was the most competent driver to never road race and jump right into it that hes ever seen. he IS a professional and has won the first 2 of 5 races in the VW TDI cup. he gets paid to know what hes talking about. he wouldnt have put me on the track if he werent comfortable with me. > > he ISNT wrong. > > ask anyone who rode with me, jay, brent, pat, rich and others how unsafe and incompetent i was. > > i hope u and all ur cool little friends have fun being all advanced professionals at a fucking go-kart track. > > i have to ask again. > > can i get the$400 back for track days i can not attend? > > there was no clearly laid out rules for refunds/etc. and i am going to have to dispute the paypal payment as services not rendered. > > i dont want it to go in that direction, but i have every right to refuse to pay if you can refuse to allow me to attend. > > let me know what you want to do. i am ready to file my claim and i wanted to give you another chance before i actually did > [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/49201/41): > > Actually, It was clear as day as you can see by the document you signed below. I’ve already spoken to PayPal. I’ve offered you the opportunity to sell you spots which are in fact, contractually void. If you turn away offers, there isn’t anything more I can do. > > Again, as I told you in person when you asked, I don’t have your money. Any money that has been paid to us has already been paid to Dunnville. I have not retained any money or made any profit from any of this. We are operating at net loss. It’s all for the benefit and growth of the automotive community. The decision to ban you from the track was separate from these facts. > > The contract you signed is encompassing of the entire 2008 season and does not apply to a single day. > > I understand that you won’t be able to come to any of the remaining days you’ve paid for since you’re moving out of the area, so I’ve given you the opportunity to sell your days and said I would honor anyones purchase from you as if they bought a day directly from us. There are people who have offered to buy your days, but if you don’t take them up on their offers there isn’t anything I can do. Contact Dave Moffitt, or any of the others. > > You actually have the potential to make back beyond your initial $400 as we gave you spots on higher-cost track days not originally included due to schedule changes. Here is what you have to sell: > > June 21st grip (worth $70) > July 12th drift (worth $135) > August 1st grip (worth $60) > August 29th grip (worth $60) > September 13th grip (worth $70) > September 27th grip (worth $100) > > That’s $495 worth of track days, but it’s up to you to sell them. I’ve been suggesting to people that they buy your days before purchasing directly form us (ie, Dave Moffitt) but beyond that there isn’t anything I can do. > > ~ Josh Now after all of those idle threats, he recently sent me this PM that I’ve noticed now since I’ve taken him off of ‘ignore’ to reply to this thread: > [@SoloIIscoob](#): > > Am I still banned? > > id like to run once or twice this year with you guys if i may be allowed to show i listen/respect the rules with which we are given. Chirs, you’re either bi-polar or just arrogant. Even if I let you back out there, there are frequent participants who would refuse to sign up because they wouldn’t want to drive with you. So take it as a life lesson like Adictd2Boost said and don’t burn bridges. Good luck with whatever you’re up to now in whatever state you’re in. And with that said, I’ll be putting you back on ‘ignore user.’ ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/213 "2009-04-07T13:35:16Z")
Think he’ll shut the fuck up now? ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/214 "2009-04-07T13:42:33Z")
I hope so. Howie gave him his “Last Chance” warning this morning. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762/215 "2009-04-07T13:43:38Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Think he’ll shut the fuck up now? Nope. > [@Nikuk](#): > > I hope so. Howie gave him his “Last Chance” warning this morning. Still Nope. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic-split-mpd47-vs-soloiiscoob-re-the-blues-e30/65762.md?page=10)