# ??????? **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [March 26, 2012, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic/263138 "2012-03-26T04:12:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 85
**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic/263138/85 "2012-04-03T21:31:11Z")
> [@Bike Comparison Site?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bike-comparison-site/48906/17): > > That older red jag, Singh’s brother IRC? I did the hood, both bumpers and a grill shell for $600 > > Yes, that hood sucked and I will admit it wasnt my best work. > > - Hood was green to start, and needed body work on the leading edge. > - Bumper front and rear needed body work. > - He didnt want to blend panels, just shoot the hood and bumpers > - fenders were faded, so the chance of matching vs a newly sprayed hood are slim to none. > - I shot it twice becasue the first time I wasnt happy with the color, I assumed the cost on the first one for more paint and my time to try to get better results. > - I got a run in the clear on the drivers side leading edge where the curve of the headlight line is that I buffed out the best I could, without risking burning through and having to reclear the entire hood. > - had some orange peel on one edge, again buffed as much as I could without risking burning through. > - offered to re-buff the hood on the spot and walk that fine line of burnthrough on the spot. He declined, I then offered bring it back when the paint has cured more, so I can cut/buff it again with less risk, he declined. > - I painted the underside for him > - bumpers came out just fine, no issues with them. > - also painted a grille shell that was in rough shape to start, and IRC there were broken tabs when I got it or something that Singh said he would take care of on the reinstall. > > Lastly, I only charged him $600 for the entire job, and I took $100 IRC off upon delivery(so $500 total) becasue of the flaws in the hood I wasnt happy about myself. Dont quote me on the price, as this was months ago, but Singh or you if you know can chime in and correct me if I am wrong. > > $150+ in materials, leaves me with 8 hours time to complete the job. R&R on the hood and bumpers alone is 3 hours time, 2.5 hrs paint on hood, +.75 for underside, 1.75 for front bumper, 1.75 for rear bumper, _less_ body work time. > > A replacement hood + underside, re-spray both bumpers and grille shell should be a $1200 job panel painted at a normal body shop. > > [http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=29901](http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=29901) > > I am not out to bend anyone over, when i make mistakes I have no problem admitting them, and resolving them for the customer. I wasn’t going to say anything about it on shift or anywhere like this but since it’s brought up I’ll just point out a couple things. Mike you’re a good dude and I would like to keep a friendship than get caught up and catch any feelings towards you for your work etc. I know for sure I would personally want to know if anyone I have done work for wasn’t happy or had something to complain about, I hate when people pretend like everything is cool when it isn’t. We all do that a little bit because its awkward otherwise and keeping it “real” isn’t always the most “polite” thing to do. I have done countless jobs and pieces of work for people throughout my lifetime and there is a ton of people who think im awesome and probably a good bunch who think I suck and that i’m lazy (vlad). so it’s cool, i get that and don’t hold nothing agains’t ya, I just personally wouldn’t ever say something like you did in the post jammer quoted. **about the hood** Yeah the hood was honestly horrible, couldn’t of expected worse work from you and I’m so sorry to say that, but I feel more of an idiot that I talked up your work to everyone that asked about paint, even the guy you’re painting a bmw for from schenectady. BAD shit happens and it is what it is, I totally understand that, it’s all good I still love you and we did find someone else to paint it and its being done as we speak. **Just to make some things clear tho,** the hood was a dark **purple to start with, not green.** The price was **originally 700 that you dropped to 600** after listening to our concerns and complaints about the hood, that was fine no problems at all. The MAIN things I just have to say is these two things: I drove the car to your shop before hand so you come and check it out and visually see the work that needed to be done for a more accurate quote. I didn’t know you had different levels of work quality based on price, I thought you understood that I just needed the hood painted to match the car and it thought it was needless to say that it should be done as best you can… No bargaining of the price was done because I didn’t want to potentially mess up the end result by rushing you or making you work for less money, the price was something you came up with and gave to me, which wasn’t a bad price it was okay. The complaints we had about the hood were **never about the color matching** , I personally think **the color match is ACCEPTABLE,** and not too bad, you’ll never match anything perfect without painting the other areas around it and blending it in, we all know and understand this. **The argument and complaints that we had** with the job you did on the hood were about the quality of work, the massive sections of orange peel, the unbelievable size of the clear run near the headlight, and IMO the worst, which was unpainted edges of the hood showing black through near the windshield. That is all, You told us the hood was too big to paint or something, We had no idea the size of the hood would be an issue for you to paint because I’ve seen your work painting whole cars like dave’s eclipse which came out pretty nice… I thought you would of gotten a good idea of the hood’s size when I brought it to you to estimate the job. I don’t care that it took a lot longer to get done than you originally estimated, from friday to sunday estimated and in actuality it took friday to thursday or something. Whatever, we just hoped the extra time you took was to make sure it was the best it could be. > [@Bike Comparison Site?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bike-comparison-site/48906/17): > > A replacement hood + underside, re-spray both bumpers and grille shell should be a $1200 job panel painted at a normal body shop. and lastly, if the price should of been $1200, then you should of quoted it to be $1200, and not 500 bucks under. Yet in the end we paid 600 for a job that is no where near being on the radar of a 1200$ job, so you didn’t “loose” money on this one by quoting it too low, maybe you lost some time, but trust me… so did we. Out of everything that happened with that, I just don’t understand how you looked at the hood, the end product/result/finish and thought it was GOOD ENOUGH to leave your garage back to the customer. You as a painter, knows better than anyone that the hood was way under standards and that’s what kills me, because I had my rep on the line by strongly and undoubtedly referring your services to someone else just to make me look dumb in the end. Don’t get it twisted tho you’re still a 10000x better than that redline dude and i never even had to deal with him. I can only imagine. I see you have some of the same problems I do and I already know they have been with you your whole life because they definitely have with me haha and if i’m right you already know what those are so I won’t even knock ya for those 😃 * * * > [@WTB: Golf Bag](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-golf-bag/48879/7): > > U prolly would do that since u cant get a girl… Im glad u chimed in… I was getting bored… > [@Happy Birthday Don \*carnut\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-birthday-don-carnut/48896/29): > > Dude want me to get u laid.??? No paul im not talkin about ur momma either… U need help buddy i got u > [@WTH: Someone to move my toolbox to my new job](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wth-someone-to-move-my-toolbox-to-my-new-job/48915/9): > > Its better then never having a ex pjb… Red x better then no ex :retardclap :retardclap :retardclap :retardclap :retardclap :retardclap wow BEST WAY NOT TO SOUND STUPID IS NOT TO SAY ANYTHING LOLLLLLL --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic/263138)._