# Tougethisdb1's ....DB1?... **URL:** \ **Category:** Builds\ **Created:** [March 25, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181 "2008-03-25T21:33:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/441 "2008-04-29T11:19:46Z")
how did you know?! ---
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/442 "2008-04-29T11:20:16Z")
huh :confused ---
**Author:** ![That\_Blue\_DA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@That\_Blue\_DA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/That_Blue_DA)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/443 "2008-04-29T11:21:48Z")
ITR DB1 FTW!!! ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/444 "2008-04-29T11:22:58Z")
So he put a b18 in it? ---
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/445 "2008-04-29T11:23:09Z")
he should start to do some weight reduction now such as AC if not already, gutting the rear, CF hood, CF hatch, and you will be good to go :thumb ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/446 "2008-04-29T11:23:36Z")
> [@1.8tV-Dub](#): > > damn thats sick, I’m thinkin about pickin up his da and swapin a b18c1 into it since it will be “relatively” cheap then save my money for another year and buying like a almost new sti, how hard was the swap? what did it need I assume you “could” use the same motor mounts but I really dont know much about the motors like that? if it only took 4 hours though I dont think it would be to hard, did he get a new tranny also? If you get a cable tranny and mounts with the motor and the car is already OBD1, then it is more or less a “drop in” motor swap. and speaking of CF hoods… I still have one ---
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/447 "2008-04-29T11:23:43Z")
> [@K20power](#): > > So he put a b18 in it? b18c5 Type R motor ---
**Author:** ![That\_Blue\_DA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@That\_Blue\_DA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/That_Blue_DA)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/448 "2008-04-29T11:24:20Z")
ITR vs K20 w/o spray :nod ---
**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/449 "2008-04-29T11:24:32Z")
FTW! ---
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/450 "2008-04-29T11:25:15Z")
> [@That Blue DA](#): > > ITR vs K20 w/o spray :nod I would like to see that! :banana there pretty much the same whp wise…k20 may have more tq ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/451 "2008-04-29T11:26:02Z")
> [@That Blue DA](#): > > ITR vs K20 w/o spray :nod haha hey whatever. > [@db2 gs-r](#): > > I would like to see that! :banana there pretty much the same whp wise…k20 may have more tq wrong, since when did a b18 come with 230-240whp? because thats about what i have at the wheels ---
**Author:** ![McBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@McBitchin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/McBitchin)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/452 "2008-04-29T11:26:31Z")
wow thats sick, how much did the whole setup run him, if I infact do that I’m not gonna buy some built tranny though, the itr motor would be sick, but thats alot more than the grs motor I’ve seen the gsr motors for like $1k, if I get 4000-5000 for my car I could buy his da (1500) get the gsr motor (1000) get a full exhaust (1000) and his suspension for 300 and have a nice car, and maybe some motor mounts but I cant imagine b-series mounts are all that much, and I’d pay somebody like $200 and some beer to help me swap it because I dont have those tools. Then I’d save up for some nice wheels. It would be a cheap, easy, fun and reliable project. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/453 "2008-04-29T11:27:20Z")
Doesn’t stallmer have a B18 ITR motor in his hatch? and i raced that. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/454 "2008-04-29T11:27:45Z")
The K20 will definitely have the better powerband both whp and tq, but the ITR valve train is good to 9000+ stock, so he might have the rev advantage… not to mention the ITR gearing is :bowdown, the red hatch is a gsr ---
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/455 "2008-04-29T11:28:22Z")
> [@K20power](#): > > haha hey whatever. > > wrong, since when did a b18 come with 230-240whp? because thats about what i have at the wheels 02-04 came out with the k20 200 STOCK whp and 140 tq I believe and the 05-06 came with 210 STOCK and…?142?.. tq ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/456 "2008-04-29T11:29:45Z")
> [@LKSi](#): > > The K20 will definitely have the better powerband both whp and tq, but the ITR valve train is good to 9000+ stock, so he might have the rev advantage… not to mention the ITR gearing is :bowdown, the red hatch is a gsr your right it is a gsr, but remember…i can rev to 9k as well, K-Pro ftw > [@db2 gs-r](#): > > 02-04 came out with the 200 STOCK whp and 140 tq I believe and the 05-06 came with 210 STOCK and…?142?.. tq What? i have mods if those are the k20 numbers and i have the 05 motor. ---
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/457 "2008-04-29T11:30:53Z")
I am talking about a plan ol k20…no mods or anything…stock from the factory ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/458 "2008-04-29T11:31:49Z")
> [@1.8tV-Dub](#): > > wow thats sick, how much did the whole setup run him, if I infact do that I’m not gonna buy some built tranny though, the itr motor would be sick, but thats alot more than the grs motor I’ve seen the gsr motors for like $1k, if I get 4000-5000 for my car I could buy his da (1500) get the gsr motor (1000) get a full exhaust (1000) and his suspension for 300 and have a nice car, and maybe some motor mounts but I cant imagine b-series mounts are all that much, and I’d pay somebody like $200 and some beer to help me swap it because I dont have those tools. Then I’d save up for some nice wheels. It would be a cheap, easy, fun and reliable project. It would definitely be one of the easier and cheaper swaps as far as Hondas go. Mounts arent that expensive… steel ones run about 200-250 with the billet ones being ~300 and up. I also don’t think a full exhaust would run you 1000, unless it was full Ti or something. :tong Of course you would sell the b18 that comes with it and make some money back too… and you could clean up the engine bay during the process. So… do it and I think the K20 would definitely rip the ITR seeing that K20\>\* ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/459 "2008-04-29T11:32:58Z")
yeah no one was saying anything about stock k20’s i said since when did any b18’s come stock with remotely close to 200whp because you said my motor and his have about the same whp/ > [@LKSi](#): > > and I think the K20 would definitely rip the ITR seeing that K20\>\* I’m not being a dick, but i think i would rip on the ITR motor vs. motor, all joking aside but hey let’s line em up. :nod ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181/460 "2008-04-29T11:34:45Z")
Not being a dick either… I know, the K20’s powerband is superior to the ITR’s. Since the cars are roughly at a similar weight, I don’t see any problems in you beating him in a straight line. Take it to a track where he can use his transmission against you, then maybe it will be a different story. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181.md?page=22) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tougethisdb1s-db1/236181.md?page=24)