# Toyota, Ford and now GM - Sticking Accelerator Pedal **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [January 28, 2010, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131 "2010-01-28T07:35:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/1 "2010-01-28T07:35:20Z")
I’m not quite sure what the exact issue is. First Toyota says it’s the floor mats. Now Ford halts production along with GM’s Pontiac Vibe because the DBWTB’s are all made at a plant here in Mississauga. So…is this a DBWTB problem? If it is. I am re-leaved in a sense. I always said…FUCK electronic throttles. They mess up, people will end up dead! Before I start jumping around. I’d like more information if anyone has any! They say it’s a “sticking gas pedal” ---
**Author:** ![fwd\_eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b4bc9f/32.png) [@fwd\_eater](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fwd_eater)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/2 "2010-01-28T07:44:35Z")
they want me to get rid of my cars that are 20yrs or older. they have also made it more difficult to register it. an unessary appraiial for 1, then not every insureance co will take a 20yr old car. y?? no on board diagnostics. no tracking me. obd- go “f” uself. FREEDOM!! ---
**Author:** ![Jowo72](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jowo72/32/5560_2.png) [@Jowo72](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jowo72)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/3 "2010-01-28T07:55:21Z")
hooray for technology! In the 43 cars I’ve owned, I never once had an issue with my throttle cable, except once, when i didnt adjust the bracket properly after an SR swap (my fault, not nissans). But every DBW piece of shit I’ve ever driven has had a glitchy, laggy akward feeling throttle - Including My now grounded 'till further notice '09 vibe company car. ---
**Author:** ![bmart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@bmart](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bmart)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/4 "2010-01-28T08:04:21Z")
when I did a brake stand with my 03 silverado once, the stupid thing stayed floored and the abs kicked in. It stayed floored for about 8 sec. Hated the electronic throttle ever since. ---
**Author:** ![weaves](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/weaves/32/5624_2.png) [@weaves](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/weaves)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/5 "2010-01-28T08:20:28Z")
They also want you to go back to school. > [@8 + 9 = springtime photoshoot](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/8-9-springtime-photoshoot/25825/2): > > they want me to get rid of my cars that are 20yrs or older. they have also made it more difficult to register it. an unessary appraiial for 1, then not every insureance co will take a 20yr old car. y?? no on board diagnostics. no tracking me. obd- go “f” uself. FREEDOM!! ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/6 "2010-01-28T09:31:12Z")
I never ever like the DBWTB system either. Kills the feeling of the vehicle. So far…this thread feels like win to me:) ---
**Author:** ![NoSkillz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/noskillz/32/5606_2.png) [@NoSkillz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NoSkillz)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/7 "2010-01-28T09:59:17Z")
I’m all for electronics, and i find it hard to believe that even if a device had failed, that proper safety precautions had not been implemented to prevent a dangerous scenario. If thats not the case it could probably be a simple software change and replace simple part. I highly doubt that a throttle cable will ever return over DBW > [@8 + 9 = springtime photoshoot](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/8-9-springtime-photoshoot/25825/2): > > they want me to get rid of my cars that are 20yrs or older. they have also made it more difficult to register it. an unessary appraiial for 1, then not every insureance co will take a 20yr old car. y?? no on board diagnostics. no tracking me. obd- go “f” uself. FREEDOM!! and people say inbred red necks don’t exist anymore ---
**Author:** ![spd-dmn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spd-dmn/32/5513_2.png) [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/8 "2010-01-28T10:05:05Z")
yep it’s CTS’s pedal position switch apparently, under certain very rare conditions, the pedal can be slow to return or may possibly fail to return toyotas assembled in japan use Denso units. so do all lexus vehicles. they are not part of the recall. toyotas assembled in north america, except the camry, all use CTS the camry, because of huge volume, can have either the CTS or the Denso. only way is to check the unit itself ![http://spd.blinkerfluid.org/images/toyota_cts_denso.jpg](http://spd.blinkerfluid.org/images/toyota_cts_denso.jpg) assembled in japan, using japanese suppliers FTW ---
**Author:** ![Theo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Theo23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Theo23)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/9 "2010-01-28T10:43:38Z")
Ya the number of crashed due to this in the last 4 or 5 years is staggering. They have been denying it for years… blaming it on user error and faulty floor mats… > **[Runaway Toyotas](http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayToyotas)** > > Toyota cars and sudden acceleration problems, an issue that has gained the name 'Runaway Toyotas,' is the subject of an ABC News investigation. ---
**Author:** ![duckJAI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duckjai/32/5553_2.png) [@duckJAI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duckJAI)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/10 "2010-01-28T10:51:41Z")
CTS said it was Toyota’s design that is faulty, and not actually their manufactering process. _shrugs_ ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/11 "2010-01-28T11:01:49Z")
i’ll stick with older cars thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Jowo72](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jowo72/32/5560_2.png) [@Jowo72](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jowo72)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/12 "2010-01-28T11:25:28Z")
Audi 5000? ---
**Author:** ![Feint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@Feint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Feint)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/13 "2010-01-28T11:45:46Z")
> [@bing"](#): > > i’ll stick with older cars thanks. Yes. I was having a similia conversation today. You drop big bucks on a car only to have a less satisfying experience, and frustrating and dangerous new experiences like this. I feel $ for $ there are many older cars that would be far more satisfying. Just not feeling a lot of new rides, especially when we have so many great older rides (clean S-chasis’, Skylines, RX’s, Aristo’s, Celsoir’s, Cedric’s, Chaser’s, Soarer’s,Supra’s) tried, testes, and proven. That’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/14 "2010-01-28T13:41:24Z")
> [@bing"](#): > > i’ll stick with older cars thanks. x2!!! ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/15 "2010-01-28T13:42:35Z")
Okay…So. Is there a CONFIRMED problem/part? ---
**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/16 "2010-01-29T05:09:01Z")
**so does no one know that they can shift into neutral or turn the car off to avoid unwanted acceleration…?** ---
**Author:** ![Philly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/philly/32/5748_2.png) [@Philly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Philly)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/17 "2010-01-29T06:32:51Z")
Ya I dont even like any of the car out there today. There are probably only 2 or maybe three cars I would even consider buying. I hate new cars! More gadgets = more things to break. I love that the electronics on the kouki are basic and the only thing digital is the clock. ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/18 "2010-01-29T06:37:49Z")
I don’t like DBW personally. I can feel a throttle lag on my car, I don’t like it. A lot of people do grounding kits, and little plug in things that mess with the DBW signal to make it more responsive, but I think the car would’ve been better if it just had a cable throttle to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Driftacular](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/driftacular/32/5724_2.png) [@Driftacular](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Driftacular)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/19 "2010-01-29T06:45:43Z")
> [@Who's going to be cruising Wed evening??](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-going-to-be-cruising-wed-evening/25828/18): > > **so does no one know that they can shift into neutral or turn the car off to avoid unwanted acceleration…?** actually i bet 80% of drivers in canada/states… DONT know that… it so ez to get ur license in these stupid countrys. and everyone is lazy and drives automatics… so they dont know jack shit. you never rlly hear of these things happening in europe… or other countrys… hey in indian u get ur license by driving down the parking lot… or handing him 200 rupees… yet they all know manual… and know that there is a neutral… ive talked to so many ppl who dont even know wat neutral does… /rant ---
**Author:** ![Jowo72](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jowo72/32/5560_2.png) [@Jowo72](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jowo72)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131/20 "2010-01-29T07:22:03Z")
For the record, neutral is not a gear, its a state. Most north american drivers only seem to care about cupholders, space and dvd players for the kids. There are few of us who actually enjoy driving. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ford-and-now-gm-sticking-accelerator-pedal/131131.md?page=2)