# Toyota FT-86 / Subaru BRZ / Scion FR-S \*NOW TURBO\* **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 5, 2010, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992 "2010-03-05T08:31:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/301 "2014-01-23T13:05:33Z")
Cant have a wrx/sti hatch anymore because they want to make a brz hatch? Isn’t that some shit. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/302 "2015-03-10T07:41:13Z")
> **[LS2 Swapped Subaru BRZ with 500 Horsepower - LS1Tech.com](https://ls1tech.com/articles/ls-swapped-brz/)** > > Alright, I think it's time to swap my BRZ. [https://youtu.be/5Lv9Hl8mEho](https://youtu.be/5Lv9Hl8mEho) [https://youtu.be/puErFrsmM5E](https://youtu.be/puErFrsmM5E) ---
**Author:** ![Bsp\_TC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bsp_tc/32/4998_2.png) [@Bsp\_TC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bsp_TC)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/303 "2015-03-10T07:51:39Z")
or you could do [https://youtu.be/huzWw9saeE4](https://youtu.be/huzWw9saeE4) ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/304 "2015-03-10T09:16:36Z")
That lsx swap is fantastic. I love the styling on these and just wish they came with a respectable power plant. I’ve driven them and its just not enough. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/305 "2015-03-10T09:21:21Z")
> [@Minglor](#): > > That lsx swap is fantastic. I love the styling on these and just wish they came with a respectable power plant. I’ve driven them and its just not enough. You’re not allowed to say that in this thread. Everyone who owns one will say “its plenty” ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/306 "2015-03-10T09:22:51Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > You’re not allowed to say that in this thread. > > Everyone who owns one will say “its plenty” Would you be the guy to admit you don’t have enough? ---
**Author:** ![Bsp\_TC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bsp_tc/32/4998_2.png) [@Bsp\_TC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bsp_TC)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/307 "2015-03-10T09:57:26Z")
Since day 1 of owning mine I have always said that it needs more power. I didn’t buy it to go fast in a straight line though. - - - Updated - - - This is an other interesting swap ![http://www.nyspeed.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34687&stc=1](http://www.nyspeed.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34687&stc=1) ![http://www.nyspeed.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34688&stc=1](http://www.nyspeed.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34688&stc=1) ![http://www.nyspeed.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34689&stc=1](http://www.nyspeed.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34689&stc=1) ---
**Author:** ![Gus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gus/32/5112_2.png) [@Gus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gus)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/308 "2015-03-10T10:03:12Z")
Those EKanooRacing guys are in the middle east… Not starting a debate here, but wonder if they have similar regulations over there. They have some Supra’s and a GTR that’s insane. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/309 "2015-03-10T10:17:45Z")
> [@Bsp TC](#): > > Since day 1 of owning mine I have always said that it needs more power. I didn’t buy it to go fast in a straight line though. My argument has always been there are a number of family sedans that run 13s/14 flat a 15 sec 1/4 mile out of anything “performance” oriented is laughable 🙂 Also at that price point the Ford Focus ST is better in every aspect while being slightly cheaper. [http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/overview/1303\_2013\_ford\_focus\_st\_2013\_subaru\_brz/specs.html](http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/overview/1303_2013_ford_focus_st_2013_subaru_brz/specs.html) ---
**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/310 "2015-03-10T14:24:43Z")
Idk, I’d take the BRZ over the ST anyday. I bought the car for where the power goes, not how much power it makes. Going fast, straight is cool. But drifting around the circle in east aurora at a safe 15mph is pretty fun too. The car is more of a go-cart than anything. ---
**Author:** ![Bsp\_TC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bsp_tc/32/4998_2.png) [@Bsp\_TC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bsp_TC)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/311 "2015-03-26T12:22:52Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > [LS2 Swapped Subaru BRZ with 500 Horsepower - LS1Tech.com](http://ls1tech.com/articles/ls-swapped-brz/) > > [https://youtu.be/5Lv9Hl8mEho](https://youtu.be/5Lv9Hl8mEho) > > [https://youtu.be/puErFrsmM5E](https://youtu.be/puErFrsmM5E) This car is for sale again… for the low price of 45,000$ > **[2013 Subaru BRZ w/LS2/T56 Swap \*\*UPDATED PRICE\*\* - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and...](https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57380)** > > 2013 Subaru BRZ w/LS2/T56 Swap \*\*UPDATED PRICE\*\* Cars for Sale/Trade ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/312 "2016-05-26T10:24:45Z")
hahaha **Subaru BRZ Gets Five More Horsepower; The Game Will Never Be The Same; Muscle Car Fans Have Lost All Reason To Live** > **[Subaru BRZ Gets Five More Horsepower; The Game Will Never Be The Same; Muscle...](https://jalopnik.com/subaru-brz-gets-five-more-horsepower-the-game-will-nev-1778883828)** > > I hope you’re sitting down, because Fuji Heavy is going to blow your mind with some of the upgrades to the 2017 Subaru BRZ. There will be a Track Mode, a Performance Package, and five more horsepower! Hey Hellcat—you’re on notice. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/313 "2016-05-26T18:01:26Z")
lol ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/314 "2016-05-26T20:28:46Z")
While the article is kind of funny, it is important to realize that complaining about the FRS/BRZ HP is to miss the point of the car entirely… ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/315 "2016-05-27T04:43:19Z")
> [@91MR2](#): > > While the article is kind of funny, it is important to realize that complaining about the FRS/BRZ HP is to miss the point of the car entirely… Yea every other performance car on the planet keeps getting faster and people keep making excuses why the BRZ is under powered… And yes I have drove one… ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/316 "2016-05-27T05:56:44Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Yea every other performance car on the planet keeps getting faster and people keep making excuses why the BRZ is under powered… > > And yes I have drove one… I did not ask if you drove one, I’m sure you have…but when you consider what happened with most Japanese sports cars over the last 20-30 years (ie. Supra, RX7, 3000GT, 300ZX, I could go on…), don’t you think Toyota/Subaru might be trying to avoid that pitfall? That is, the cars just keep getting more powerful, more expensive, heavier, etc., and then eventually the market dries up when the economy starts to struggle, and then they are gone? Look at the big success from that world of sports cars…the Miata…in 25 years, yes it has gone through a few generations, but it has kept true to its prinicpals, and has stayed a good seller all along… That is not to say I would not mind a more intense, faster FRS/BRZ edition…but I do not need it to appreciate it for what is is currently… ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/317 "2019-06-20T17:59:08Z")
Next gen on the way. Also, they’re bringing back the MR2? > Toyota’s next 86 is expected to be the most affordable of a ["three brothers"](https://www.thedrive.com/news/26953/toyota-three-brothers-sports-car-family-wont-have-model-below-86)lineup of sports cars that will include it, the GR Supra, and a currently unspecified model expected to either be a revived Celica or MR2. > **[Next-Gen Toyota 86 Confirmed, Will Also Be Co-Developed With Subaru: Report](https://www.thedrive.com/news/27112/next-gen-toyota-86-confirmed-will-also-be-co-developed-with-subaru-report)** > > Toyota bosses haven't declared whether the new car will address the outgoing model's biggest criticism: power. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/318 "2020-11-18T21:27:44Z")
New BRZ: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEphlYS2oXs) ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/319 "2020-11-18T21:35:47Z")
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**Author:** ![Z28pr0jekt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/z28pr0jekt/32/5393_2.png) [@Z28pr0jekt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z28pr0jekt)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/320 "2020-11-19T00:58:44Z")
IMO the previous model looked better… this one looks more bubbly if that makes sense. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992.md?page=17)