# Toyota FT-86 / Subaru BRZ / Scion FR-S \*NOW TURBO\*

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [March 5, 2010, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992 "2010-03-05T08:31:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/21 "2010-03-05T10:35:21Z")

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I’d do it.

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**Author:** ![Boomin99GT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boomin99gt/32/7306_2.png) [@Boomin99GT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boomin99GT)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/22 "2010-03-05T11:34:14Z")

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I like it a lot :tup:

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**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/23 "2010-03-05T11:41:57Z")

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hottt

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/24 "2010-03-05T11:42:35Z")

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I’d trade the 86 in on it. Still holding my breath on the how it will drive part as well.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/25 "2010-03-05T11:59:38Z")

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A little more info on it here:

> **[Toyota FT-86 Concept: Behold, The New AE86](https://jalopnik.com/toyota-ft-86-concept-behold-the-new-ae86-5375233)**
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> A joint Toyota/Subaru sports car project has been in the works for what feels like forever. Now, finally, here's the first look, a heavily production-based concept called the Toyota FT-86 set to debut this month at the Tokyo Motor Show.

> The Toyota FT-86 concept is the fruit of cooperation between Toyota Motor Company and Subaru, and as such will wear a common chassis and some degree of engine commonality, at the least a 2.0 liter, four cylinder boxer engine dubbed the “C-45 Boxer” and making between 200 and 250 HP will power the rear wheels through a manual six speed transmission, and get this — no hybrid system. Saints be praised.

> Perhaps most telling are the car’s overall dimensions. At 163.7 inches long, 69.3 inches, a wheelbase of 101.2 inches, and 49.6 inches high, it’s thankfully compact, smaller in length, width and height than the Nissan 370Z, and slightly longer in wheelbase.

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/26 "2010-03-05T12:03:06Z")

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Meh it will be heavy and slow.

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**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/27 "2010-03-05T12:03:38Z")

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> [@Red00WS6](#):
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> I dont like the Turbine wheels, were not in the 80’s!

says the guy with the F body lol

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/28 "2010-03-05T12:06:30Z")

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so Subaru is going to sell something not AWD?

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/29 "2010-03-05T12:35:34Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> so Subaru is going to sell something not AWD?

They already are… Kia’s.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/30 "2010-03-05T12:37:36Z")

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touche.

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/31 "2010-03-05T12:46:05Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> so Subaru is going to sell something not AWD?

> It should come as no surprised that Subaru – a brand that’s made its name in the States for offering rugged, all-wheel drive vehicles – is a little wary about bringing its own version of the RWD Toyobaru to the U.S.
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> Speaking with Wards Auto, Subaru spokesperson Michael McHale said, “We’re an all-wheel drive brand,” going on to say that, “If it doesn’t affect the core of the brand, maybe we’d bring it in as an interesting option.”

> **[REPORT: Subaru spokesman concerned that RWD Toyobaru could dilute brand...](http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/17/report-subaru-spokesman-concerned-that-rwd-toyobaru-could-dilut/)**
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> Subaru Sports Coupe Renderings - Click above for high-res image gallery

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/32 "2010-03-09T16:21:45Z")

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id much rather have a supra.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/33 "2010-03-09T16:23:06Z")

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That’s definitely an apples to oranges comparison.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/34 "2010-03-09T16:34:20Z")

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If the RWD compact coupe does well, you could very well see Toyota start development on a new supra.

But they aren’t going to do that if the market for sports cars dries up with all this fuel and economy (read tree-hugging environmental loving hippies) issues.

Really, the supra is never coming back.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/35 "2010-03-10T09:16:12Z")

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the supra will come back at some point, the name will just grow as an icon, but when it does come back it won’t be as cool.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/36 "2010-03-10T09:26:08Z")

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Great, until you’re doing 150mph down the highway with a stuck accelerator.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/37 "2010-03-10T09:44:01Z")

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2-250 horsepower, you think they could’ve atleast gotten 300 out of it. Nice looking car, I hope toyota doesn’t price it too high.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/38 "2010-03-10T09:53:33Z")

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they could have gotten 600hp out of it, that’s not their goal for numerous reasons.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/39 "2010-03-10T11:57:52Z")

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Looks better then the cr-z and mazda 3. I’m not a fan of this new gaping front Japanese styling.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/40 "2010-08-04T09:08:55Z")

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Instead of making a new thread…Delayed til 2013 so they can see how the CR-Z does. They’ll probably turn it into a damn hybrid :KE

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