# Toyota FT-86 / Subaru BRZ / Scion FR-S \*NOW TURBO\* **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 5, 2010, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992 "2010-03-05T08:31:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![SpoonDC2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SpoonDC2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SpoonDC2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/101 "2011-11-17T19:15:19Z")
i like the body, too bad its supposed to be badged a Scion I think whats gonna make or break the car in my opinion is gonna be the engine specs… any word on that??? ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/102 "2011-11-17T19:39:59Z")
see info on the last page. ---
**Author:** ![Hortanica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Hortanica](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hortanica)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/103 "2011-11-18T00:44:22Z")
soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo i like the wing. ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/104 "2011-11-27T06:41:15Z")
The comparison of concept vs production is hysterical. Hey, they kept the grill shape the same though hahahahahahahaha. ![http://www.toyota-europe.com/Images/ft86_gal_002_prev_tcm280-954322.jpg](http://www.toyota-europe.com/Images/ft86_gal_002_prev_tcm280-954322.jpg) ![http://img2.netcarshow.com/Toyota-GT_86_2013_1024x768_wallpaper_02.jpg](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Toyota-GT_86_2013_1024x768_wallpaper_02.jpg) ![http://www.carzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Toyota-FT-86-Tokyo-2009-a.jpg](http://www.carzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Toyota-FT-86-Tokyo-2009-a.jpg) ![http://img2.netcarshow.com/Toyota-GT_86_2013_1280x960_wallpaper_08.jpg](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Toyota-GT_86_2013_1280x960_wallpaper_08.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/105 "2011-11-27T06:51:30Z")
Hideous. :tdown: ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/106 "2011-11-27T07:18:50Z")
Concept looks better ---
**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/107 "2011-11-27T07:24:02Z")
Wheel arches ruin the front. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/108 "2011-11-27T08:05:38Z")
who approved the production version with such a awesome looking concept? fire them ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/109 "2011-11-27T08:20:03Z")
^^ That can be said of many cars. They’re called accountants, lol. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/110 "2011-11-27T09:40:43Z")
Meh. ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/111 "2011-11-27T09:51:14Z")
Failboat ---
**Author:** ![Garick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@Garick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Garick)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/112 "2011-11-27T13:52:41Z")
ick, hopefully the subaru looks better ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/113 "2011-11-27T13:59:53Z")
It’s like they made a nice clean car and then said we should make it look more like a scion. ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/114 "2011-11-27T15:20:21Z")
> [@Garick](#): > > ick, hopefully the subaru looks better It’s the same car, it was posted on the previous page. ---
**Author:** ![Garick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@Garick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Garick)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/115 "2011-11-28T16:00:53Z")
at least the interior looks pretty nice [http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2388](http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2388) ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/116 "2011-11-28T17:25:05Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > ^^ That can be said of many cars. They’re called accountants, lol. I don’t see any cost benefits of the production version vs. concept in terms of tooling for sheet metal stamping dies. And save the $0.23 that it costs for this badge: ![http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2962&d=1322436781](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/2/82629ebb03c06c2cbeb2c4c4dedde3c38e29eda0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/117 "2011-11-28T17:35:47Z")
I totally thought that badge was a swastika with some pistons coming out of it at first :picard: ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/118 "2011-11-29T14:06:14Z")
Looks kinda meh. BRZ: ![http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2011/11/4eb21926aec3255eb345669edf3f9e95.jpg](http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2011/11/4eb21926aec3255eb345669edf3f9e95.jpg) ![http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2011/11/633c2679a2119405d7b6f5e243a5cde0.jpg](http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2011/11/633c2679a2119405d7b6f5e243a5cde0.jpg) Maybe wheels & low will help? :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/119 "2011-11-29T14:30:16Z")
The concept was sooo much better. Lame. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/120 "2011-11-30T06:15:13Z")
Music is terrible, so mute your speakers if you want to watch: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP3SR1m_aRY) > The BRZ weighs just 2,689 Lbs at the curb, making it one of the lightest-weight sports cars available. The convertible Miata weighs 2,410 Lbs and makes just 158 HP. The Subaru will be faster. There is potential here… but it needs something to make it look better. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992.md?page=7)