# Toyota FT-86 / Subaru BRZ / Scion FR-S \*NOW TURBO\* **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 5, 2010, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992 "2010-03-05T08:31:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Bull49](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bull49/32/7381_2.png) [@Bull49](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bull49)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/161 "2012-08-18T07:38:39Z")
[http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?83201-New-Toyota-FT-86-Subaru-BRZ-Scion-FR-S&highlight=scion+frs](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?83201-New-Toyota-FT-86-Subaru-BRZ-Scion-FR-S&highlight=scion+frs) ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/162 "2012-08-18T09:02:50Z")
Why bitch it’s a cool platform and will be better when they release a turbo version ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/163 "2012-08-18T09:08:25Z")
yeah, it’s so short-sighted to hate on this platform. ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/164 "2012-08-18T09:19:49Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Why bitch it’s a cool platform and will be better when they release a turbo version I’m with stupid X… ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/165 "2012-08-18T09:37:11Z")
I test drove one last week (the Scion) and I have to admit, this car is fantastic. It’s about as nimble as my miata, but has more bells and whistles. If I had to buy a new car next week, or even next year, I wouldn’t hesitate buying one of these. ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/166 "2012-08-18T13:01:00Z")
Oh definitely, cool car, but the d-bag owners will butcher a lot of them and I hate them plenty no matter what they drive. Are they planning on a turbo model? I googled, but didn’t see anything in the aftermarket horizon yet. ---
**Author:** ![fourseasonsandles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@fourseasonsandles](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fourseasonsandles)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/167 "2012-08-18T14:18:00Z")
Rumor mill in the Subaru forums indicate there will be a turbo version. Time will tell. ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/168 "2012-08-18T14:29:59Z")
Did Toyota build all of it, or is a parts bin build from other platforms and such? ---
**Author:** ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/169 "2012-08-18T16:59:15Z")
> [@Spam16v](#): > > What else is out there in the “4cyl” RWD market? Miata/MX-5? That’s all that comes to mind. air cooled vw beetle rear engine too ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/170 "2012-08-18T18:56:56Z")
> [@Spam16v](#): > > I’ll never buy one, but an RWD sport compact, cheap shitbox is going to get a big following in the dude-bro, boy racer, sticker loving, Initial D-curb jumping, douche bags out there. > > Forgive me if there was already a thread, but I kinda see this car making a name for itself. How long has the 240 been out of production? What else is out there in the “4cyl” RWD market? Miata/MX-5? That’s all that comes to mind. Who cares if the dude-bros, boy racers, etc, etc buy/mod/race these cars? It’ll be just like every other car that is popular to modify and race; there will be the owners that know what they are doing and there will be the owners that don’t. And add the Genesis Coupe to the list of cars in the 4 cyl RWD market. ---
**Author:** ![captain\_morgan1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/captain_morgan1/32/5928_2.png) [@captain\_morgan1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/captain_morgan1)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/171 "2012-08-18T19:08:01Z")
now drive a turbo 4 cyl genesis coupe if you can find one 2013 ONLY! Every local dealer is sold out i believe and the 2011-2012 were slow and gay unless you got the v6. But for 25k i would get the genesis with 275hp 4cyl turbo all day, and it has almost twice the warranty ---
**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/172 "2012-08-18T20:03:43Z")
> [@Spam16v](#): > > Did Toyota build all of it, or is a parts bin build from other platforms and such? The scion Frs and subaru brz are identical minus body tweaks, some suspension differences, and other minor stuff. The car was a joint venture between the 2 companies. It has a boxer motor. ---
**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/173 "2012-08-18T20:21:08Z")
I like the car, but a few thoughts: its not really that cheap, base msrp is 24,995 and im sure destination isnt included so for 25k you get a great driving car but definitely underpowered (25k isnt really that cheap imo anyway, a new camry is 22k…) the turbo version will probably be 30k give or take… if it wasnt cheap before look out now also ive seen a bunch of these, the base interior really sucks compared to the one with the upgraded seats ect. so even if I bought a non turbo one im sure i’d be up around 30k before tax would much rather buy a loaded 5 yr old 335i for the same price personally ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/174 "2012-08-18T20:29:24Z")
> [@Jim1234664](#): > > I like the car, but a few thoughts: > > its not really that cheap, base msrp is 24,995 and im sure destination isnt included > > so for 25k you get a great driving car but definitely underpowered (25k isnt really that cheap imo anyway, a new camry is 22k…) > > the turbo version will probably be 30k give or take… if it wasnt cheap before look out now > > also ive seen a bunch of these, the base interior really sucks compared to the one with the upgraded seats ect. so even if I bought a non turbo one im sure i’d be up around 30k before tax > > would much rather buy a loaded 5 yr old 335i for the same price personally there is no base/upgrade interiors, they are all the same… thats scions motto i have a 335i and have driven a fr-s, imo they are different cars meant for totally different things ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/175 "2012-08-18T20:34:33Z")
> [@Spam16v](#): > > Did Toyota build all of it, or is a parts bin build from other platforms and such? More the opposite, it’s basically a Subaru… ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/176 "2012-08-18T20:39:26Z")
5 year old 335 vs a new car with warranty Hmm I’m sure turbo won’t be that expensive hell a WRX is under 30 dont see why they couldn’t use that motor ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/177 "2012-08-19T00:43:00Z")
Subaru Fanboi checking in to say when they drop the turbo model, ill be modding the shit out of it and jumping curbs quicker than you can say white rice. ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/178 "2012-08-19T05:22:41Z")
> [@91MR2](#): > > More the opposite, it’s basically a Subaru… Oh okay. Found some other info online poking around. Toyota and Subaru vs. all the other failed ventures… Ala Routan, the Isuzu Pilots, and so on. This should have a good following if it crosses directly over from current gen/future WRX engines. And as far as the Hyundai mentioned earlier, if you’ve ever worked on or seen a Hyundai serviced, as far as I am concerned they don’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/179 "2012-08-19T07:30:16Z")
source: [2013 Scion FR-S First Drive - FR-S Release, Scion FR-S Price, FR-S Specs](http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/drives/2013-scion-fr-s/) > 2013 Scion FR-S Specifications > ENGINE > Engine type flat-4 > Displacement 2.0 liters > Fuel system direct injection > Horsepower (SAE) rpm 200 bhp @ 7000 > Torque 151 lb-ft @ 6600 rpm > Transmission 6-spd manual, 6-spd auto > EXTERIOR DIMENSIONS > Wheelbase 101.3 in. > Length 166.7 in. > Width 69.9 in. > Height 50.6 in. > **Curb weight 2770 lb** > STEERING > Steering type power rack & pinion > Steering ratio 13.0:1 > SUSPENSION > Suspension, f/r MacPherson strut/double wishbone > TIRES > Tire size P215/45R-17 f, P225/45R-17 r Fuck all you haters! change those tires for 244/255 add a little power and you will have one HELL of a good track car. You can’t fake lightness! ---
**Author:** ![Dekar12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@Dekar12](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dekar12)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992/180 "2012-08-19T12:39:06Z")
I saw one at West Herr Toyota the other day it was a pretty sharp looking car. Even the NA version seems like it could be a decent amount of fun. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-ft-86-subaru-brz-scion-fr-s-now-turbo/79992.md?page=10)