# Toyota fucked up
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [February 28, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802 "2008-02-28T16:38:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/1 "2008-02-28T16:38:34Z")
I went to look at the new Toyota Matrix.
20 fucking miles per gallon!
ridiculous.
it’s a four cylinder, for fuck’s sake!
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### Author:  [@BMXpaperweight](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BMXpaperweight)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/2 "2008-02-28T16:43:24Z")
> [@Photoshop question](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photoshop-question/35180/6):
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> Toyota Matrix.
there is your first problem
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### Author:  [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/3 "2008-02-28T16:55:15Z")
Honestly not trying to be a dick… but aren’t you like eleventeen billiondy dollars upside down on the Scion? Just keep it, pay as much as you can ever month and get it paid off before you even think about another switch.
-TJ
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### Author:  [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/4 "2008-02-28T16:55:43Z")
> [@newman's secret: so pink](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newmans-secret-so-pink/34920/126):
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> there is your first problem
nah.
i drive fantastically boring cars… four doors and a hatch is ideal for me. i don’t like german cars, so that leaves me with the matrix/vibe, the ugly nissan versa, the overpriced (but excellent) honda fit, and various korean cars that’ll depreciate insanely.
we’re running into problems with my scion that might leave me without a car. the dealership fucked up some paperwork, leaving my car untitleable (for the forseeable future), which makes registration impossible (my plate still comes back as registered to my old suzuki). they’ve already put fraudulent inspection/emissions stickers on it. we’re working with an attorney, but after months of trying there has been no progress.
so i’m looking at cars again, just in case i’m put in a position soon where i have to turn my car in and buy something else immediately.
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### Author:  [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/5 "2008-02-28T16:56:06Z")
> [@iPod touch... no email wtf](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipod-touch-no-email-wtf/35170/10):
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> Honestly not trying to be a dick… but aren’t you like eleventeen billiondy dollars upside down on the Scion? Just keep it, pay as much as you can ever month and get it paid off before you even think about another switch.
see above post.
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### Author:  [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/6 "2008-02-28T16:58:38Z")
> [@ShalerPunk"](#):
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> see above post.
Oh snap… crazyness!
I still say the Fit is the perfect car for you, even if it is overpriced (as you say above). Are they selling that well? Any chance you can get a left-over '07 at a big discount?
-TJ
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### Author:  [@burnyd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnyd)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/7 "2008-02-28T17:02:40Z")
if your looking at a Xr 6 speed then yes it gets 20mpg and requires atleast 89 octane.
good motor its in the newer celica gts’s but the car itself is hella ugly.
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### Author:  [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/8 "2008-02-28T17:04:12Z")
> [@My New S2000](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-new-s2000/35047/44):
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> I still say the Fit is the perfect car for you, even if it is overpriced (as you say above). Are they selling that well? Any chance you can get a left-over '07 at a big discount?
i don’t know if there are leftover Fits.
i really have no idea what i’m going to do. one of the scenarios leaves me without the scion, with all of the payments i’ve made on the car going towards the negative equity i had in the loan ($4500 paid towards $7500 neg equity). if i get out of this with $3000 in negative equity, i’d probably ask my parents for the cash to pay that off and just buy something i really like in cash. i’m talking about a lot of “ifs”, but if that happens i’d probably try to buy the cleanest, stockest, newest EK hatch I can find.
i really have no clue at this point. i do know that the registration sticker on the plate of the car i’m illegally driving is only good for three more months.
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### Author:  [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/9 "2008-02-28T17:05:19Z")
> [@NHL 08 XBOX 360](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nhl-08-xbox-360/34653/38):
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> if your looking at a Xr 6 speed then yes it gets 20mpg and requires atleast 89 octane.
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> good motor its in the newer celica gts’s but the car itself is hella ugly.
nope. the new matrix is the 2.4.
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### Author:  [@munster\_ek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/munster_ek)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/10 "2008-02-28T17:28:40Z")
I doubt there are leftover 07 Fits considering there were 3 month waiting periods to get them.
We’re really happy with our Fit. 30,000 miles on it already and not a problem at all. No complaints either.
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### Author:  [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/11 "2008-02-28T17:32:07Z")
well if the dealership fucked up…WHY OH WHY are you paying the price for it? threaten to call the news channels if you already haven’t…if that doesn’t do anything…actually call them…dealerships will do virtually ANYTHING in their power to NOT look bad
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### Author:  [@sasquach](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sasquach)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/12 "2008-02-28T17:47:11Z")
fuck em drive it through the showroom window
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### Author:  [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/13 "2008-02-28T17:50:02Z")
> [@LAMBORGHINI REVENTON!!! THREAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lamborghini-reventon-thread/48550/32):
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> nah.
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> i drive fantastically boring cars… four doors and a hatch is ideal for me. i don’t like german cars, so that leaves me with the matrix/vibe, the ugly nissan versa, the overpriced (but excellent) honda fit, and various korean cars that’ll depreciate insanely.
> .
Mazdaspeed3? Or are you forever trying to keep it under 100whp?
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### Author:  [@burnyd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnyd)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/14 "2008-02-28T18:04:23Z")
> [@XBOX 360 Live update - post update issues?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xbox-360-live-update-post-update-issues/35186/2):
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> nope. the new matrix is the 2.4.
ew that sucks…
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### Author:  [@imported\_Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Jon)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/15 "2008-02-28T21:26:59Z")
Yeah why the fuck are you paying anything if they fucked up? Pay nothing and get a fat discount on a new car for them fucking with you like that.
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### Author:  [@PurpleMongoose](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PurpleMongoose)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/16 "2008-03-01T20:29:54Z")
> [@LAMBORGHINI REVENTON!!! THREAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lamborghini-reventon-thread/48550/32):
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> the dealership fucked up some paperwork, leaving my car untitleable (for the forseeable future), which makes registration impossible (my plate still comes back as registered to my old suzuki). they’ve already put fraudulent inspection/emissions stickers on it. we’re working with an attorney, but after months of trying there has been no progress…
So, will you get back the money you spent on this? It seems they didn’t sell you a car, so they shouldn’t get their end of it. Be a nice chunk to put down on something, don’t you think?
If they balk at that, then I’d bring up the fact that they not only committed criminal and fraudulent acts, but that the courts, DOT, and news channels would all have a field day with that kind of info.
As long as they’re fucking you, they could at least give you the courtesy of a reacharound. Right?
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### Author:  [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/17 "2008-03-01T21:04:33Z")
[http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/420f06009.htm](http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/420f06009.htm)
> Under EPA’s proposal, the new fuel economy estimates would be lower for most vehicles. This is not because auto makers have designed the same vehicles to be less fuel efficient—it is because our new test methods take into account factors that have been missing or not fully accounted for in the current tests. Because some vehicles are more sensitive to these factors than others, the impact of the proposed changes will vary from vehicle to vehicle. The city MPG estimates for conventional (non-hybrid) vehicles would drop on average by about 10-20 percent from today’s labels, while the highway estimates would drop by about 5-15 percent, depending on the vehicle.
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### Author:  [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2008, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/18 "2008-03-01T23:09:50Z")
In diving, the pressure inside the lungs must effectively equal the pressure outside the body, otherwise the lungs collapse. Mathematically speaking, if the diver is f feet (or m meters) deep, and the air pressure at the water surface is p bar (usually p = 1, but less at high-altitude lakes such as Lake Titicaca), he must breathe fluid at a pressure of f/33+p = m/10+p bar.
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### Author:  [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2008, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/19 "2008-03-01T23:13:46Z")
well these just came into the US.
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### Author:  [@blizzardVR6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blizzardVR6)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2008, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-fucked-up/195802/20 "2008-03-01T23:42:33Z")
> [@Attn: Euro car owners. There's a new shop in town. Details inside...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/27):
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> well these just came into the US.
YES !!! finally i will start my dream project
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