# Toyota Halts Sales on 8 models **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 26, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644 "2010-01-26T15:39:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/21 "2010-01-27T07:01:06Z")
good, more money my way ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/22 "2010-01-27T07:49:49Z")
I wonder if GM will stop selling the Pontiac Vibe, oh wait… ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/23 "2010-01-27T09:11:47Z")
> [@BigRon](#): > > I wonder if GM will stop selling the Pontiac Vibe, oh wait… I read that toyota has to fix the vibes too. Sounds like someone who didn’t know the details though. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/24 "2010-01-27T09:31:17Z")
> Turns out, the decision to stop producing these vehicles wasn’t made by Toyota alone. The Detroit News reports that Toyota is required by law to stop selling the vehicles since there is no fix available yet. David Strickland, the new administrator of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, said that Toyota consulted with his agency, which informed the automaker of its obligations and it complied. That still doesn’t answer why these recalled vehicles were being sold five days after the recall was announced. > > Nevertheless, Toyota spokesman Mike Michels is reported saying that the company’s decision to stop selling the recalled vehicles was voluntary, but that they also had a legal requirement to do so. How do you voluntary do something that you’re obligated to do? > **[Report: Toyota was legally required to stop selling recalled models - Autoblog](https://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/27/report-toyota-was-legally-required-to-stop-selling-recalled-mod/)** > > Toyota has quite the PR nightmare on its hands. The boiling cauldron of complaints surrounding unintended acceleration issues bubbled over this month with two separate but giant recalls. The latest involves eight Toyota models that contain ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/25 "2010-01-27T09:35:57Z")
> [@Penfold](#): > > I read that toyota has to fix the vibes too. Sounds like someone who didn’t know the details though. Yeah but I doubt there are many if any New Vibes on dealers lots. As of the beginning of Novemeber there were 350 Nationally, then they ran the $7,500 off thing. But yes the Vibe will be included in the recall: > **[Don't Forget Me! Pontiac Vibe also included in Toyota recall - Autoblog](https://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/25/dont-forget-me-pontiac-vibe-also-included-in-toyota-recall/)** > > Pontiac Vibe – Click above for high-res image gallery ---
**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/26 "2010-01-27T11:00:34Z")
the Toyota news happened the same day GM and Ford announce expansions. Sucks for Toyota. ---
**Author:** ![dawn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dawn/32/7209_2.png) [@dawn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dawn)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/27 "2010-01-27T11:02:46Z")
whooops! ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/28 "2010-01-27T13:12:04Z")
_chants_ U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/29 "2010-01-27T13:13:27Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > _chants_ U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A The defective part was made by a US company produced in Canada. [http://www.ctscorp.com/publications/press\_releases/nr100127.htm](http://www.ctscorp.com/publications/press_releases/nr100127.htm) ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/30 "2010-01-27T13:20:31Z")
Blame Canada ---
**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/31 "2010-01-27T13:30:10Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > Blame Canada haha I was going to say the samething ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/32 "2010-01-27T14:48:01Z")
Effective today through the end of February, GM is offering three deals to any Toyota customer who wants to switch to a Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac or GMC product. Lease Customers: Waiver of three payments up to $1,000 Financing Customers: Zero percent financing for 60 months Cash Buyers: $1,000 purchase bonus ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/33 "2010-01-27T14:49:06Z")
Rental Cars: > Both Avis Budget Group and Enterprise Holdings have reportedly announced they will pull thousands of Toyota models each from their fleets. Avis Budget estimates it will pull 20,000 units, while Enterprise Holdings, which manages its Enterprise, National and Alamo brands, didn’t give a number, except to say that about four percent of its fleet would be affected. Both companies reiterated that the action was just a precautionary measure, but that has to be of little solace to Toyota in the midst of a barrage of negative press surrounding its unintended acceleration woes. ---
**Author:** ![BigEd88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/biged88/32/5064_2.png) [@BigEd88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigEd88)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/34 "2010-01-27T15:34:53Z")
![http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/dezldave961/toyota.jpg](http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/dezldave961/toyota.jpg) this was on another forum and made me lol ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/35 "2010-01-27T16:03:55Z")
No Camry? OMG there will be no new cars! We’ll all have to start driving classic used cars! At least reliability issues will be a thing of the past. Right deathproof? :poke: :pedo: :run: ---
**Author:** ![vt1992s10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/73ab20/32.png) [@vt1992s10](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vt1992s10)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/36 "2010-01-27T16:44:30Z")
I’m glad I work at a Honda Dealership! Our neighbors (toyota Dealership) looked very bored today, however they did get one truck load in; of cars/trucks they couldn’t sell. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/37 "2010-01-28T08:22:43Z")
The Facts: 5 Confirmed cases. Out of 2.4 million vehicles. Not all Toyota’s listed are affected, only the ones built in America. (VIN’s start with 4T - **There are 4T vehicles that aren’t affected though** ) Two pedal assemblies can be found in Toyota’s; Denso and CTS. The Denso pedal assemblies are manufactured by Toyota in Japan and work fine. The CTS pedals are manufactured by a Union ran American company. These are the faulty pedals. Apparently the factory felt that the design and materials Toyota/Denso mandated necessary didn’t apply to them. The materials and design scheme were altered by CTS and Toyota was never made aware. What’s happening is that on drive by wire cars, there is no feeling of pressure on the pedal without the use of a pressure plate. The pressure plate is wearing out on CTS pedals, differently than on Denso pedals. Hence, the sticking. All 5 confirmed incidents were on vehicles with more than 100,000 miles. The problem was gradual and not sporatic. Don’t think that it’s just going to happen out of nowhere. You’d notice a lack of pedal feel/the pedal being slow to respond. That’s all I have at this time. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/38 "2010-01-28T08:37:48Z")
FYI - My sister and mother drive 2009 and 2010 Camry’s that potentially have CTS pedals (I haven’t had time to check) and I’m not concerned. \<333 ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/39 "2010-01-28T08:44:47Z")
> From 1976 to 1982 the Audi 5000 experienced 13 complaints of sudden acceleration > > Although the sudden acceleration syndrome charges against Audi in the were eventually proven to be groundless, negative publicity severely damaged the company.[ [http://www.audifans.com/archives/1998/04/msg03406.html](http://www.audifans.com/archives/1998/04/msg03406.html) It doesn’t need to be true to cause a black eye ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/40 "2010-01-28T10:37:09Z")
Thankfully this only affects Toyotas. If it impacted anything that actually had torque, it might be a bigger problem. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644.md?page=3)