# Toyota Halts Sales on 8 models

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [January 26, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644 "2010-01-26T15:39:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/41 "2010-01-28T10:38:20Z")

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Typical Toyota quality control…

I’ll stick with my quality American made cars (German made ones too) thank you very much.

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**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/42 "2010-01-28T10:52:56Z")

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> [@OriginalSterm](#):
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> Typical Toyota quality control…
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> I’ll stick with my quality American made cars (German made ones too) thank you very much.

You obviously didnt read anythng beck posted…this problem was caused by an AMERICAN based company that made the parts for Toyota. The ones made in Japan work just fine. Sooo who’s got the quality control problem now?

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/43 "2010-01-28T10:53:53Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> Thankfully this only affects Toyotas. If it impacted anything that actually had torque, it might be a bigger problem.

Does Toyota sell a car who’s engine can overcome its brakes even?

Man do those cars suck, go domestic!

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**Author:** ![d3x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@d3x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d3x)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/44 "2010-01-28T11:11:50Z")

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> [@OriginalSterm](#):
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> Typical Toyota quality control…
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> I’ll stick with my quality American made cars (German made ones too) thank you very much.

and which american made cars are you referring to?  
the Camry? (made in Kentucky)  
the Accord? (made in Ohio)  
the Altima? (made in Tennessee or Mississippi)

you surely can’t be talking about  
the Impala (made in Oshawa Canada)  
the Fusion (made in Hermosillo Mexico)  
the Charger (made in Brampton Canada)

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/45 "2010-01-28T11:13:13Z")

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I’d rather have a union-made American car in Canada than a red-state Japanese one.

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**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/46 "2010-01-28T11:17:09Z")

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> [@OriginalSterm](#):
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> Typical Toyota quality control…
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> I’ll stick with my quality American made cars (German made ones too) thank you very much.

You’re obviously not familiar with whatever the fuck it is you’re talking about.

Read this: [Kaizen - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaizen)

It’s a staple in any industry’s quality control segment. It was first implemented in the workforce by Toyota and they’ve perfected it. Since then domestic brands have latched on. If it wasn’t for Toyota’s process of continual improvement methods, GM would be in the shitter.

[http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746\_7-10270192-48.html](http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-10270192-48.html)

“With these and some other technical innovations, GM has a fighting chance to meet the federal government’s 35.5 mpg corporate average fuel economy mandate for 2016. And the key to it all has been kaizen–step-by-step improvement rather than a technological Great Leap Forward.”

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**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/47 "2010-01-28T11:18:39Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> I’d rather have a union-made American car in Canada than a red-state Japanese one.

What if they had 150,000 miles on them?

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**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/48 "2010-01-28T11:22:02Z")

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> [@d3x](#):
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> and which american made cars are you referring to?  
> the Camry? (made in Kentucky)  
> the Accord? (made in Ohio)  
> the Altima? (made in Tennessee or Mississippi)
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> you surely can’t be talking about  
> the Impala (made in Oshawa Canada)  
> the Fusion (made in Hermosillo Mexico)  
> the Charger (made in Brampton Canada)

It’s not even worth it to waste your time. Just because there isn’t a bow-tie on the grill, people tend to forget that Toyota employs 1.5 million people in the US.

Shit, I own a Toyota and a GM. Well, I physically drive the Toyota. As for the GM, I pay taxes.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/49 "2010-01-28T11:23:52Z")

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> [@Beck](#):
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> What if they had 150,000 miles on them?

I wouldn’t own anything with 150,000 miles on it. Old shit sucks.

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**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/50 "2010-01-28T11:31:32Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> I wouldn’t own anything with 150,000 miles on it. Old shit sucks.

:word:

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**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/51 "2010-01-28T11:48:50Z")

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> [@Beck](#):
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> It’s not even worth it to waste your time. Just because there isn’t a bow-tie on the grill, people tend to forget that Toyota employs 1.5 million people in the US…

…and just because somebody had a 1984 Chevette that they abused they assume all American made cars suck and the brand new Japanese car they bought and take care of is superior.

My comment was sarcasm, poorly translated across the internet. My point was that this _could_ lead to public opinion that, right or wrong, will be tough to get over. So many people, this forum included, discount American made cars without actually having facts or well formed opinions based on personal, RECENT experience.

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/52 "2010-01-28T11:49:15Z")

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So what happens if you have one of these cars?  
My stepdad has one, i always tell him his car fucking sucks. atleast i’m officially right  
he has an 07

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/53 "2010-01-28T11:57:29Z")

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Increase his life insurance?

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/54 "2010-01-28T12:14:15Z")

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good call lol

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/55 "2010-01-28T12:32:50Z")

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Kaizen = common sense. If you have to read up on what it is and learn it you shouldn’t be in a business.

Who on earth DOESN’T want to improve quality while cutting costs?

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**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/56 "2010-01-28T12:43:39Z")

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> [@OriginalSterm](#):
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> Typical Toyota quality control…
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> I’ll stick with my quality American made cars (German made ones too) thank you very much.

I remember VW/Audi having similar problems a few years ago. In fact, their electronic throttles scared a bunch of owners due to unpredictability.

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/57 "2010-01-28T15:59:34Z")

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You’re supposed to slam the brakes, throw the car in neutral and immediately shut the car off and call a dealer if it happens to you lol

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**Author:** ![BigEd88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/biged88/32/5064_2.png) [@BigEd88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigEd88)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/58 "2010-01-28T16:45:27Z")

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I wonder what the reason for going to the American company for the pedals was?

Oh yeah cutting costs probably.

I haven’t had any bad luck with GM really so I haven’t had a reason to switch, but if I did, I’d buy a Honda.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/59 "2010-01-28T17:02:43Z")

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Looks like Ford uses the same pedals, and just halted production in China: [LINK](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704194504575030891636493402.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_business)

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**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/60 "2010-01-28T17:20:39Z")

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CTS also supplies pedals for Hyundai, Honda/Acura, Nissan/Infiniti. It’s up to CTS to notify these manufacturer’s that there is something wrong with their parts. So far they haven’t. Should be very interesting in the days to come.

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