# Toyota Halts Sales on 8 models

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [January 26, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644 "2010-01-26T15:39:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/61 "2010-01-28T17:26:29Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> Looks like Ford uses the same pedals, and just halted production in China: [LINK](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704194504575030891636493402.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_business)

i didnt read your link… but i read on one of the links on yahoo that Fords use them, but none of their models were effected

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**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/62 "2010-01-28T17:28:14Z")

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They said on the news tonight that both Toyota and the pedal manufacturer agree that the pedal is NOT the only issue leading to the failures.

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**Author:** ![vt1992s10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/73ab20/32.png) [@vt1992s10](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vt1992s10)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/63 "2010-01-28T18:03:57Z")

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> [@BigEd88](#):
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> I wonder what the reason for going to the American company for the pedals was?

Most car companies us 2 or more suppliers just in case something goes wrong with quality. This is a prime example, they will probably have Denso working extra to help produce replacement pedals.

When I worked at Valeo as a co-op test engineer we were competing directly with Denso for GM windsheild wipers. We had a problem with one model and GM found out and we were given the chance to fix the problem if we did nothing we would have lost some of GM bussiness on the specific wiper system.

Just because a supplier makes pedals for a bunch of car companies does not mean that they are all going to fail, they are all different designs… for example we had Ford, Mistubishi, GM (Caddy, chevy, pontiac, etc) they were all different design because of the requirements the car company gave us. Even the parts that were supplied to us came from different lower suppliers.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/64 "2010-01-28T18:09:01Z")

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_"Early Thursday, two people briefed on the company’s actions told The Wall Street Journal that Toyota is close to developing a repair for the sticking pedals._

Khilnani agreed with Toyota’s assessment that condensation from heaters caused increased friction in the gas pedal, making it stick in some cases.

The pedals used in Toyota vehicles aren’t shared by other auto makers, Khilnani said. Each auto maker creates their design and CTS builds to those specifications.

Even so, Ford Motor Co. (F) halted production in China of the diesel version of the Transit Classic because CTS supplies those gas pedals. A Ford spokesman said the pedals used in those vehicles are similar to ones used by Toyota. The auto maker wanted to make sure the vehicles have no potential problems." [Link](http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/201001281437DOWJONESDJONLINE000727_FORTUNE5.htm)

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**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/65 "2010-01-28T19:09:54Z")

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Beck,

How can one tell if he has a CTS pedal?

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/66 "2010-01-28T19:13:09Z")

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buncha shit i can’t get around out there…

i was under the impression it was:

> [@8 + 9 = springtime photoshoot](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/8-9-springtime-photoshoot/25825/12):
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> yep it’s CTS’s pedal position switch
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> apparently, under certain very rare conditions, the pedal can be slow to return or may possibly fail to return
> 
> toyotas assembled in japan use Denso units. so do all lexus vehicles. they are not part of the recall.
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> toyotas assembled in north america, except the camry, all use CTS
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> the camry, because of huge volume, can have either the CTS or the Denso. only way is to check the unit itself

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/67 "2010-01-29T07:15:07Z")

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> “The safety of our customers and employees is our utmost priority, and in that regard, the suspension should continue until the issues have been resolved,” the National Auto Auction Association said in a statement. Manheim, the nation’s largest auction company, said it is complying with the recommendation of NAAA and immediately halted sales of the recalled Toyota vehicles at its 81 auction sites in the United States and Canada and on its [OVE.com](http://OVE.com) electronic sales channel.
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> “We are committed to supporting Toyota during this challenging time,” Manheim, which controls roughly half the used-vehicle auction market in the United States, said in a statement.
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> Auction company ADESA Inc. said it, too, has halted sales of recalled vehicles. ADESA is the second-largest auction company in the United States, with approximately one-fifth of the market.
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> Today, used-car retailer CarMax Inc. said it was suspending sales of new and used Toyota vehicles included in the recall.
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> In a statement, CarMax said it is “following Toyota’s instructions, and vehicles covered by the Jan. 21st recall will currently not be available for sale.” CarMax operates one franchise Toyota store in Laurel, Md., and sells used Toyotas at its 100 used-car locations.

The PR beating continues…

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/68 "2010-01-29T07:17:55Z")

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> A House committee has begun investigating whether Toyota Motor Corp. and its top executives, as well as the Obama administration, responded adequately to customer complaints of sudden acceleration in Toyota vehicles.
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> Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., chairman of the House Energy Committee, today expressed dissatisfaction with responses given by Toyota representatives yesterday to committee staff.
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> He sent letters asking both Yoshimi Inaba, president of Toyota Motor North America, and David Strickland, head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, for extensive records dating back to 2000.
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> Toyota and NHTSA were told to supply the documents by Feb. 12.
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> While the meeting between the committee staff and Toyota “was helpful, it left important questions unanswered, including when Toyota learned about this serious safety defect and what actions the company took to investigate and resolve the hazard,” Waxman wrote to Inaba today

All I read in that article was blame Obama

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/69 "2010-01-29T07:25:21Z")

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Everyone else does it, why not. At least if it was GM they’d have a case.

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/70 "2010-01-29T07:38:36Z")

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I am sure Obama would claim the pedals were bad before he came into office and it would be unfair to assume he could fix them all in his first year of office.

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**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/71 "2010-01-29T07:42:20Z")

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> [@BigRon](#):
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> I am sure Obama would claim the pedals were bad before he came into office and it would be unfair to assume he could fix them all in his first year of office.

:lol:

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/72 "2010-01-29T07:51:00Z")

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> [@BigRon](#):
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> I am sure Obama would claim the pedals were bad before he came into office and it would be unfair to assume he could fix them all in his first year of office.

:bigtup:

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/73 "2010-01-29T07:57:59Z")

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I hear GM is offering $1000 incentive to Toyota owners that switch

edit:  
my bad

> [@BigRon](#):
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> Effective today through the end of February, GM is offering three deals to any Toyota customer who wants to switch to a Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac or GMC product.
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> Lease Customers: Waiver of three payments up to $1,000  
> Financing Customers: Zero percent financing for 60 months  
> Cash Buyers: $1,000 purchase bonus

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**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/74 "2010-01-29T09:26:27Z")

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> [@BigRon](#):
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> I am sure Obama would claim the pedals were bad before he came into office and it would be unfair to assume he could fix them all in his first year of office.

I call BS, he won the Nobel prize for ending the war in the middle east in his first year of office.

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/75 "2010-01-29T13:16:18Z")

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> the European recall also involves eight models: the Auris, Avensis, Aygo, Corolla, iQ, RAV4 Verso and Yaris. All told, about 1.8 million vehicles are involved.
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> Unlike in the U.S., Toyota Europe will not be suspending production of any models because replacement parts are already being used at its various assembly plants. What’s interesting to note is that some of those plants are located in Japan, specifically ones that build the Corolla and RAV4. Until now, the reason given for all Lexus and Scion models being excluded from the recall was that they were built exclusively in Toyota’s native country and used an accelerator pedal mechanism sourced from a different supplier, not CTS Corp. that manufactured the defective part for North American plants.
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> Whether or not this means the recall could be expanded even further, perhaps to include vehicles from other Toyota brands, remains to be seen, but **the fact that the defective part in question has now popped up on the other side of the Atlantic suggests that the problem lies in its design and not how it was manufactured by the supplier**.

hmm…

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/76 "2010-01-29T13:27:19Z")

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Can’t say I’ve ever experienced the throttle sticking. The Scion tC is manufactured in Japan and it’s built on the European Avensis chassis.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/77 "2010-01-29T16:06:39Z")

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> [@deebo](#):
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> So what happens if you have one of these cars?  
> My stepdad has one, i always tell him his car fucking sucks. atleast i’m officially right  
> he has an 07

:lol: you drive a $500 car.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/78 "2010-01-29T16:19:06Z")

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> [@Beck](#):
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> :lol: you drive a $500 car.

Actually i drive two 3000$ cars  
And i have 6000$ worth of shit. So i have 12000$ worth of “cars”  
But thank you for your evaluation of my financial situation.

You live at home, you’re 24… You dropped out of college.  
:io:

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/79 "2010-01-29T18:11:44Z")

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> [@deebo](#):
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> Actually i drive two 3000$ cars  
> And i have 6000$ worth of shit. So i have 12000$ worth of “cars”  
> But thank you for your evaluation of my financial situation.
> 
> You live at home, you’re 24… You dropped out of college.  
> :io:

:fry:

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/80 "2010-01-29T19:00:48Z")

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> [@deebo](#):
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> Actually i drive two 3000$ cars  
> And i have 6000$ worth of shit. So i have 12000$ worth of “cars”  
> But thank you for your evaluation of my financial situation.
> 
> You live at home, you’re 24… You dropped out of college.  
> :io:

lmfao WHAT

You have $6000 “worth of shit,” two shitty $3k cars, and you’re acting high and mighty?

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