# Toyota Halts Sales on 8 models **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 26, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644 "2010-01-26T15:39:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/81 "2010-01-29T19:02:17Z")
You missed the other thread. FGGT I’m not going to get into an argument again over the internet with pompous faggots. ---
**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/82 "2010-01-29T19:05:02Z")
> [@deebo](#): > > You missed the other thread. > FGGT > I’m not going to get into an argument again over the internet with pompous faggots. lolbro Read your last post and judge who the “pompous faggot” is. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/83 "2010-01-29T19:08:33Z")
Im not bragging that i own a 3000$ car. Maybe you’re missing the point. Which was in the other thread, and then beck decided to view my posts (because i made 2 previous posts in this thread after the comment he quoted) So he could say i Own a 500$ car. and apparently im poor because i live in cheektowaga and go to college :gotme: Don’t come into a fucking situation which died off anyways, if you don’t know what’s going on. ---
**Author:** ![vt1992s10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/73ab20/32.png) [@vt1992s10](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vt1992s10)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/84 "2010-01-29T20:51:13Z")
Can we get back to the toyota topic? ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/85 "2010-02-01T06:55:31Z")
![http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/02/pedalassemblyopt.jpg](http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/02/pedalassemblyopt.jpg) The fix > **[Toyota's remedy for recalled pedals announced, dealers to remain open extended...](https://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/01/toyotas-remedy-for-recalled-pedals-announced/)** > > Toyota remedy for recalled pedals – Click above to enlarge ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/86 "2010-02-01T07:19:23Z")
Is that seriously all theyre doing? It just looks like it limits the range of the pedal. I dont see how this could fix ‘sticking’ pedals. Unless going WOT in a Toyota causes you to force the PPS past its rated travel, and it has no or a poor stop, causing some ‘friction’ as they call it. And to have the issue anyways, youd have to go WOT, likely with excessive force. I dont think the average person throws the pedal wide open very often, even if it is a torqueless Toyota. Regardless, it looks like a poor fix that may marginally slow down the affected Toyotas even more. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/87 "2010-02-01T18:16:40Z")
more than 5 million cars effected… could be upwards of 7 million cars worldwide. I gotta believe that the cost of warranty work is going to be $150 - $400 each for the part, transport, labour, etc. etc. that’s anywhere from $750,000,000 to $2,800,000,000 just in direct costs not including the liability from the lawsuits from the dozens dead and thousands of other cases of accelration related accidents and issues… plus then you have the loss of sales… This is going to cost A LOT!!! Even being conservative you gotta be over $2 Billion in the next 24 months… fuck ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/88 "2010-02-01T20:45:31Z")
> Last week alone shares in the automaker plunged by a jaw-dropping 14 percent. That’s a drop of $21 billion (with a B) in market value. The lion’s share of the losses are likely due to investors’ unease at how the the mounting recalls are playing out, but we suspect that part of the issue has to do with Toyota’s handling of the recalls to date. > **[Toyota loses $21B in market share in one week, plans media blitz this week -...](https://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/31/toyota-loses-21b-in-market-share-in-one-week-plans-media-blitz/)** > > After a long spell as the apple of the media's eye, Toyota is now officially in the bad news barrel. So far the Japanese automaker has announced the recall of 5.3 million vehicles for floor mat issues that may lead to unintended acceleration and a... ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/89 "2010-02-01T20:56:43Z")
It’s been real toyota… ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/90 "2010-02-02T06:09:51Z")
> [@bing](#): > > toyotas assembled in japan use Denso units. so do all lexus vehicles. they are not part of the recall.: Wasn’t the 911 call car that crashed and killed a family of 4 that started all of this a lexus? ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/91 "2010-02-02T06:15:20Z")
> [@walter](#): > > Wasn’t the 911 call car that crashed and killed a family of 4 that started all of this a lexus? That was due to “stacking” floormats. Whole different issue from the sticking pedals. This is where I have a problem. The media is blowing this out of proportion. They are showing videos of burning ES350’s and flipped over 4Runners. Both of which have nothing to do with the recall. Nobody has died from the “sticky” pedals. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/92 "2010-02-02T06:21:19Z")
> [@Beck](#): > > That was due to “stacking” floormats. Whole different issue from the sticking pedals. > . Ah true. Either way. Why do people suck so much that they can’t figure out how to handle that. Its not like it went 0-200MPH in 10 seconds. WTF is calling 911 supposed to do? Wasn’t that guy a CHP officer? Shouldn’t he be able to figure out how to put the car in neutral or shut the damn engine off? ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/93 "2010-02-02T06:31:09Z")
911 call: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHGSWs4uJzY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHGSWs4uJzY) While it might seem like a basic thing to us, these people didn’t know that they could put their car in neutral… :meh: Simple automotive knowledge could have saved lives. ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/94 "2010-02-02T06:42:01Z")
C&D just did a test of a few cars with “stuck accelerators” to see how long it would take to slow one down from freeway speed, using just the brakes. The Camry stopped only 6 or so feet longer than it did with the throttle closed. Even a 500+ horse Roush Mustang was hauled down (although it took 900 feet). ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/95 "2010-02-02T06:48:48Z")
You import guys finally see what domestic guys have known for years…it’s impossible to inject logic to keep things in perspective into a discussion of the general public about car quality. Now you can finally see what it’s like to argue with “I don’t care if the new models are winning best-in-class quality awards, I had a Chevy in the 80’s and it was a POS, domestics suck!” ---
**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/96 "2010-02-02T06:50:39Z")
> [@Beck](#): > > This is where I have a problem. The media is blowing this out of proportion. They are showing videos of burning ES350’s and flipped over 4Runners. Both of which have nothing to do with the recall. Are you new to watching the news? How are you surprised? The media always blows everything out of proportion. Just like when they blew the GM tailgate recall way out of proportion. [http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recalls04/gm\_pickups.html](http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recalls04/gm_pickups.html) I know I’d much rather my throttle stick than the cable snap on my tailgate :roll: ---
**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/97 "2010-02-02T07:58:50Z")
I could only imaging the service department nightmare with the tons of calls they are getting from people to get their car in asap or to give them a free loaner. I worked at Northtown Dodge during the infamous Caravan tailgate latch recall. Hours upon hours of nonstop calls from people wanting to bring in their car immediately and the shortage of parts for the 15 minute replacement. ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/98 "2010-02-02T09:20:39Z")
Did Toyota have a service announcement saying, PUT YOUR FUCKING CAR IN NEUTRAL yet? They could probably calm people down if they said putting the car in neutral stops the unintended acceleration. Or would bouncing off rev limiter for 30 seconds blow up a Toyota? (And I guess you could call me a import guy, but ive hated Toyota for years) ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/99 "2010-02-02T09:32:03Z")
Ok… so this helps with the sticking pedal… what about the un-comanded acceleration? My mom has a '10 Camry and has had not only the pedal stick a few times; but the car actually accelerate when she wasn’t pressing the pedal!!! ---
**Author:** ![d3x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@d3x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d3x)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644/100 "2010-02-02T10:55:14Z")
> Toyota argues that if there was a problem, the computer that manages the vehicle’s speed would detect a difference between the accelerator and throttle positions and cause the engine to reduce power. In their investigations, they claim that no such errors were detected by the computer. > > The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is satisfied with Toyota’s explanation, although, worringly, they cite a lack of resources to investigate the matter any further. If your moms Camry is accelerating without throttle input then she should take it to the dealer immediately. The NHTSA isn’t going to react until it gets more people coming forward with a problem. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-halts-sales-on-8-models/78644.md?page=6)