# toyota tundra **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 16, 2007, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645 "2007-03-16T19:55:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sinner6.0L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sinner6.0l/32/6016_2.png) [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2007, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/1 "2007-03-16T19:55:08Z")
> Lou Kaltenstein > President > Gene Norris Buick-GMC Trucks Inc./Norris Auto Group > 18170 Bagley Rd > Middleburg Hts., Ohio 44130 > > There has been a lot of talk about Toyota Tundra’s new ads and how > impressive they are. Here are some myths about their spots that I > have found and that should be refuted. Also, they are offering a > “IVC” type program on Tundra to help with sales. > > I would guess all of you have seen the ad where the Tundra pulls a > trailer up a steep grade (a ‘see-saw’), and then barrels down hill and > locks the brakes up just before the end of the ramp. Many of you have > commented on how well done the spot is visually. However, here are > the actual facts to share with people: > > 1. The V.O. at the beginning of the spot says…“It’s tough > pushing 10,000 lbs up a steep grade”. Myth: Toyota would like the > audience to believe the trailer is 10,000 lbs. Fact: It’s a 5,000 lb > truck pulling a 5,000 lb trailer. A little slight of hand? You bet. > > 2. Then, on the way down the grade, the camera zooms in on the > brakes as the vehicles comes to a screeching halt just prior to the > end of ramp. Next time you see the ad…look for the ‘mice type’. > It indicates the trailer is equipped with electric brakes. > Fact…the electric brakes stop the trailer – not the truck. A > little slight of hand? You bet. > > 3. And why does Toyota have bigger brake pads? They need > them…their truck is heavier. Stopping distance between our truck > and theirs is virtually identical. And why does Toyota have a 6 speed > transmission? To improve their fuel economy…which is still 2 mpg > less than ours. > > 4. And don’t forget…their big V8 has one axle ratio – a > 4.3. Suck fuel much? Our trucks offer several axle options to > optimize towing and fuel economy. Bottom line: OUR TRUCK IS BETTER! > Spread the word…we can all make a difference. From GM inside news [http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46488](http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46488) ---
**Author:** ![bgblockelcamino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bgblockelcamino/32/5997_2.png) [@bgblockelcamino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bgblockelcamino)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2007, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/2 "2007-03-16T20:32:59Z")
woot GM FTW ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/3 "2007-03-16T20:41:34Z")
that was a no brainer it had trailer brakes ---
**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/4 "2007-03-16T21:10:22Z")
GM\>Toyota trucks ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2007, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/5 "2007-03-16T21:31:07Z")
- \> reading ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/6 "2007-03-17T12:04:48Z")
> [@WTB: Distributor for '92-95 Civic LX/DX (B15)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-distributor-for-92-95-civic-lx-dx-b15/28808/3): > > woot > GM FTW :stupid: ---
**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/7 "2007-03-17T12:06:50Z")
> [@240sx = cobra](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240sx-cobra/27557/50): > > :stupid: ---
**Author:** ![vw16vcabby](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vw16vcabby/32/5943_2.png) [@vw16vcabby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vw16vcabby)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/8 "2007-03-17T13:56:26Z")
toyota small trucks\> anything domestic gm fullsize trucks\> anything else on the road. give it time though, i can see toyota giving the general a run for the money. esp now that they are in nascar. they are going to “americanize” themselves. ---
**Author:** ![burnyd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnyd/32/6020_2.png) [@burnyd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnyd)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/9 "2007-03-17T20:49:07Z")
the midsize / smaller toyota trucks are great… Im really referring to the mid 80s - \> late 90s 22re trucks… just cant beat them… but being a toyota lover if it came down to a full size truck I would go gm all the way. ---
**Author:** ![SixSpeed454SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SixSpeed454SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SixSpeed454SS)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/10 "2007-03-17T21:06:08Z")
I am in no way saying the Tundra is the best truck out there, but do yourselves a favor & go drive the new 5.7L Tundra. It simply rips ass. I was doing burnouts thru 3rd gear. It will even smoke the tires while rolling. I was doing (just cruising) 120mph on rte 30 between Latrobe & Greensburg & it felt stable and had very little wind noise. This was all in a stock 4x4 full size pickup. My 454SS didn’t even go 120 mph when new. The Tundra is more comfortable, quieter, better looking, and better equipped, than a new Chevy. The new chevy’s are fugly & they don’t run all that good. I drove a new Avalanche right before the Tundra & I thought it was a POS. I drove a Ridgeline after the Tundra & it was like driving a minivan. The day I drove these 3 trucks, I had full intentions of buying an Avalanche or the Ridgeline. Mostly the Ridgline because GM (the company) sux donkey balls. After driving the Tundra, I’m convinced Toyota has done right with it. It is just too big for my needs. It is 20 inches longer wheelbase than the Ridgeline. The Ridgeline would be perfect for me with about 100 more horsepower. Just my .02 ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/11 "2007-03-17T21:17:11Z")
Pewters old 8.1 gas dually crew cab with allison was a beast. Would not even consider buying anything less for a truck. who ever bought that is one lucky SOB ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/12 "2007-03-18T06:45:33Z")
> [@De La Hoya v.s. Mayweather](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/de-la-hoya-v-s-mayweather/28763/18): > > Pewters old 8.1 gas dually crew cab with allison was a beast. Would not even consider buying anything less for a truck. who ever bought that is one lucky SOB u should ride in the Tow Truck! ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/13 "2007-03-18T07:58:14Z")
wow ---
**Author:** ![flyinglow57](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/flyinglow57/32/5978_2.png) [@flyinglow57](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/flyinglow57)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/14 "2007-03-18T08:02:47Z")
hold on… a company falsified information while advertising… no shit. thats crazy… blelieve nothing of what you hear and half of what you see. ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/15 "2007-03-18T09:53:05Z")
> [@This is why i hate cobalt ss drivers](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-i-hate-cobalt-ss-drivers/27102/80): > > u should ride in the Tow Truck! mater is a beast ! !:burnout: ---
**Author:** ![neonracer01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc348/32.png) [@neonracer01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonracer01)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-tundra/188645/16 "2007-03-18T15:15:18Z")
> [@Powdercoated my valvecover.... results](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/powdercoated-my-valvecover-results/28841/2): > > hold on… a company falsified information while advertising… no shit. thats crazy… blelieve nothing of what you hear and half of what you see. x2