# traction for final season runs

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [October 31, 2007, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938 "2007-10-31T13:15:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/1 "2007-10-31T13:15:44Z")

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I called both summit and jegs and the best summit came up with was this

[http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MTT-3052&N=700+115&autoview=sku](http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MTT%2D3052&N=700+115&autoview=sku)

which I could drive to Ohio and pick up tomorrow so I have them for this weekend.

jegs came up with the same tire for 3 bucks more.

does anyone sell blems? that I could pick up cheap because I really shouldent be spending 300 bucks right now.

I have tires that could yeld me 2.0 60’ times but I have enough power to burn them off at the line so the car has better than a 2.0 in it for sure.

thoughts/sugestions.

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/2 "2007-10-31T13:19:05Z")

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Running a full slick is going to hurt your MPH and stability…

You should try MT ET drag radials next year on another set of rims…

14-15psi works well…

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### Author: ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/3 "2007-10-31T13:19:37Z")

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### Author: ![Studderin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/studderin/32/7197_2.png) [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/4 "2007-10-31T13:20:30Z")

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what size rim do you have?

do that make that size in the in the C subcode, deff get that compond if you can. if not get a hoosier quicktime pro would be the next best slick for you.

if you can setup up to the 3053c there fucking bad ass. I ran them.  
can you run a 28" 3055c fucking rules too.

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### Author: ![Studderin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/studderin/32/7197_2.png) [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/5 "2007-10-31T13:21:30Z")

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[quote=FormulaLS1;722642]Running a full slick is going to hurt your MPH and stability…

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I never had that happen? I hear people say that, maybe its a internet racing only thing?

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### Author: ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/6 "2007-10-31T13:27:29Z")

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“Stability” will be affected because of the side wall stiffness compared to the non driven wheels. The simple version…For tires mounted for a RWD car = oversteer (Cf \> Cr), for FWD = understeer (Cf \< Cr).

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/7 "2007-10-31T13:33:48Z")

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[quote=“Studderin,post:5,topic:37938"”]

I never had that happen? I hear people say that, maybe its a internet racing only thing?

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First learn to quote…

…do 100mph on a Full Slicks, ET Street, Drag radial…The drag radial WILL have the best stability…

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### Author: ![Mike93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike93/32/7325_2.png) [@Mike93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike93)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/8 "2007-10-31T13:34:27Z")

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[quote=“somedude”"]

which I could drive to Ohio and pick up tomorrow so I have them for this

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I think you may be the nuttiest person I’ve ever known when it comes to their car and how much money/time you will devote into it…

As far as the slick comment goes, I think matters on how fast the car is. I’ve seen the drop in mph on several 12 and 13 second cars…obviously not much on faster ones as they need the sticky tire mush more. I remember in my experiences with going from slicks to radials the differnece was upwards of 2 mph slower with the slick, but the ET improved.

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### Author: ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/9 "2007-10-31T15:27:19Z")

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[quote=“LXTASY,post:8,topic:37938"”]

I think you may be the nuttiest person I’ve ever known when it comes to their car and how much money/time you will devote into it…

As far as the slick comment goes, I think matters on how fast the car is. I’ve seen the drop in mph on several 12 and 13 second cars…obviously not much on faster ones as they need the sticky tire mush more. I remember in my experiences with going from slicks to radials the differnece was upwards of 2 mph slower with the slick, but the ET improved.

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I don’t care much about trap speed, honestly i’m more interested in ET. my reasoning for this is I can’t come close to many of the other SHO guys because I would have to be faster than 120+ to be a contendor. I simply don’t have enough power. Is this tire major overkill? Idealy I will be launching at 14psi at the engines first torque peak (yes there is 2) then locking the TC when it shifts into second.

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### Author: ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/10 "2007-10-31T15:35:35Z")

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do you have to run a tube in slicks or does it just help stabability a bit.

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/11 "2007-10-31T15:38:13Z")

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It helps stability…but what do I know just listen to Studderin :lol:

Locking the TC in 2nd? Sounds fun…I thought most people lock it in 3rd to bring the RPMs back down…

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### Author: ![Mike93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike93/32/7325_2.png) [@Mike93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike93)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/12 "2007-10-31T15:44:54Z")

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[quote=“somedude,post:9,topic:37938"”]

I don’t care much about trap speed, honestly i’m more interested in ET. my reasoning for this is I can’t come close to many of the other SHO guys because I would have to be faster than 120+ to be a contendor. I simply don’t have enough power. Is this tire major overkill? Idealy I will be launching at 14psi at the engines first torque peak (yes there is 2) then locking the TC when it shifts into second.

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That tire can definitely hook…but I also think an aggressive drag radial like the MT DR would suit you just as well. This is assuming you can get both tires nice and HOTTTTTTTTTT…if not you’re wasting your time and money.

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### Author: ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/13 "2007-10-31T15:47:59Z")

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[quote=“FormulaLS1,post:11,topic:37938"”]

It helps stability…but what do I know just listen to Studderin :lol:

Locking the TC in 2nd? Sounds fun…I thought most people lock it in 3rd to bring the RPMs back down…

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I will lock it near the top of second at about 6K to bring it back into my torque band and if I rember I will lower my shift point to 6500 so it shifts around 7K instead of 7500 or when ever it feals like shifting.

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### Author: ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/14 "2007-10-31T16:03:44Z")

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Slicks drop MPH because it took you less time to get down the track so you couldn’t get up to the same speed.

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/15 "2007-10-31T16:27:28Z")

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Can you tie down your rear suspension like the GTP guys do?

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### Author: ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/16 "2007-10-31T17:02:17Z")

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we used the poly spring blocks before, made a real nice improvement, IIRC they jam between 2 full rotations of the coil

the back end of the car hardly dropped at all w/ them in there. but we only had autox slicks on the front that day, and i dont think the pressure was all that low in them either (i want to say 25 or 30?)

alex, just run the autox slicks again, they hooked real good … and i really want a video of your car rolling to the line on 18 inch aluminium rims, then ripping off a monster burn out … maybe this time we can get the anti-taurus comments on film 🙂

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### Author: ![Blown\_Stroked](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blown_stroked/32/7324_2.png) [@Blown\_Stroked](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blown_Stroked)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/17 "2007-10-31T17:12:38Z")

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i didnt even think this thing broke traction to need slicks.

~layzie

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### Author: ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/18 "2007-10-31T17:21:46Z")

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on full boost launches it will definantly break traction, always has

but at the same time, your also kinda right, it doesnt have serious traction problems, but thats mostly because its an automatic, and because for some odd reason the open diff is good at putting power down to both wheels, if one tire is spinning the other is spinning too. both front tires always seam to lay down equal length patches

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### Author: ![Studderin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/studderin/32/7197_2.png) [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/19 "2007-10-31T17:27:48Z")

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stock diff your be fine. Ive gotten low 1.7s on mine. gtp best is a 1.31

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### Author: ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/traction-for-final-season-runs/37938/20 "2007-10-31T17:36:57Z")

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[quote=“somedude,post:9,topic:37938"”]

I don’t care much about trap speed, honestly i’m more interested in ET.

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Yes!!! My hero!

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