# Transmission or TCM on 91 talon tsi AUTO? **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [July 12, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392 "2011-07-12T18:12:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/1 "2011-07-12T18:12:19Z")
Went to buy a 91 Talon tsi today in Catskill but the car had a minor stumble and was stuck in third gear. Went into drive and reverse fine but from zero to about 40 was slow as fuck lol… Really want the car as I can get it pretty cheap and its very clean but I dont wanna be stuck throwing a tranny in it… Kid swears its the tcm and said he brought it to a shop that hooked it up to SOMETHING that allowed it to go through all gears?? (noy a tcm) …not sure if this matters but when I test drove it there was no tcm installed, it was already out of the car. ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/2 "2011-07-12T18:17:01Z")
Sounds fishy. I don’t know enough to make for then a guess, but I don’t believe shifts are electronically controlled on something that old. There should be something that controls converter lockup. Is there any kind of kick down cable running to the trans? Either way if you buy it, better figure on having to put a trans in it and get it for just about nothing. ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/3 "2011-07-12T18:17:33Z")
also whats the fluid look like/smell like? ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/4 "2011-07-12T18:24:25Z")
You stay buying fucking turds. If you dont know any thing about the car dont buy it ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/5 "2011-07-12T18:25:20Z")
not sure about post 1, post 2, it was dark red which I suppose is to be expected for something that old but nothin crazy… smelled fine ---
**Author:** ![k2024egcoupe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/k2024egcoupe/32/6617_2.png) [@k2024egcoupe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/k2024egcoupe)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/6 "2011-07-12T18:31:38Z")
Auto DSM’s can be worthy… after you dump some loot into the transmission, and junk the smaller 13b turbo they come with… ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/7 "2011-07-12T18:31:59Z")
> [@Calling Engineers (turbo idea)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-engineers-turbo-idea/43168/68): > > You stay buying fucking turds. If you dont know any thing about the car dont buy it I dont think I’ve ever lost money on a car in my life? And if im buying it cheap enough whats the problem? Realisticly I can grab the car for $800… Has a double din clarion deck & stock deck, interior is flawless and the body is clean… Not to mention the motor is clean as fuck and factory turbo spools great… Even if I bought a tranny for $500 and paid $300 to have it put in id be at $1600 total. I sell the clarion deck for $200, put the stock deck back in which puts me at $1400… I can grab $2,500 easy for the car which would put me at $1,100 profit. I would not like to go through the trouble/stress of throwing a tranny in the car though so thats why I made this thread. ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/8 "2011-07-12T18:32:23Z")
> [@WTB: 97 integra front quarter panel/ door](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-97-integra-front-quarter-panel-door/43727/4): > > not sure about post 1, post 2, it was dark red which I suppose is to be expected for something that old but nothin crazy… smelled fine Well a quick internet search and I can’t find a parts listing for a 91 TSI TCM. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t have one, it’s really not a car I’m that familiar with. Is this the one last listed for 1500 on CL? ---
**Author:** ![b-ri](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/b-ri/32/6376_2.png) [@b-ri](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/b-ri)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/9 "2011-07-12T18:32:35Z")
prolly some stupid little check ball is not seating or something gay ---
**Author:** ![xreaction](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xreaction/32/6409_2.png) [@xreaction](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xreaction)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/10 "2011-07-12T18:32:56Z")
Talk him down to selling it for dirt cheap and swap a 5 speed in it. those 4 speed autos are really only good for the track. ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/11 "2011-07-12T18:32:59Z")
> [@Thursday night all nighter to 9-5 on Friday..in bar attire, naturally](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thursday-night-all-nighter-to-9-5-on-friday-in-bar-attire-naturally/43842/41): > > Auto DSM’s can be worthy… after you dump some loot into the transmission, and junk the smaller 13b turbo they come with… I’ve had 4 5 speed first gens, never an auto first gen… I actually wanna buy this one to keep though and fuck around with it in the winter. ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/12 "2011-07-12T18:36:08Z")
> [@Car Insurance?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-insurance/43860/13): > > I’ve had 4 5 speed first gens, never an auto first gen… I actually wanna buy this one to keep though and fuck around with it in the winter. mitsu autos suck big floppy donkey dick. If you buy it just 5MT swap it. ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/13 "2011-07-12T18:36:43Z")
> [@Thursday night all nighter to 9-5 on Friday..in bar attire, naturally](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thursday-night-all-nighter-to-9-5-on-friday-in-bar-attire-naturally/43842/42): > > Well a quick internet search and I can’t find a parts listing for a 91 TSI TCM. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t have one, it’s really not a car I’m that familiar with. Is this the one last listed for 1500 on CL? They def have a transmission control modual But i agree there hard to find as most you see are 5 speeds. yeah its the 1 on c list for 1500 lol… clean right? > [@b-ri"](#): > > prolly some stupid little check ball is not seating or something gay huh? > [@WTB: propane heater where can i get one locally?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-propane-heater-where-can-i-get-one-locally/43863/2): > > Talk him down to selling it for dirt cheap and swap a 5 speed in it. > those 4 speed autos are really only good for the track. he wanted 1500, i think I got him down as much as hes gonna go lol. ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/14 "2011-07-12T18:37:18Z")
. ---
**Author:** ![b-ri](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/b-ri/32/6376_2.png) [@b-ri](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/b-ri)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/15 "2011-07-12T18:49:27Z")
transmissions have check balls that make and create line pressure which forces the clutchs/friction plates together to shift your gears from my understanding. automatics are too complicated and finiky for me ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/16 "2011-07-12T18:51:56Z")
> [@Obama - Clinton Debate (jayS stay out - lol)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clinton-debate-jays-stay-out-lol/43837/29): > > transmissions have check balls that make and create line pressure which forces the clutchs/friction plates together to shift your gears from my understanding. automatics are too complicated and finiky for me oo…gotcha, didnt understand what u were saying the first time lol ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/17 "2011-07-12T18:52:17Z")
> [@WTB: radiator](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-radiator/43855/2): > > They def have a transmission control modual But i agree there hard to find as most you see are 5 speeds. > > yeah its the 1 on c list for 1500 lol… clean right? > > huh? > > he wanted 1500, i think I got him down as much as hes gonna go lol. It could be as simple as the module, but most modules like that require programming(atleast domestic platforms I’ve worked on). If thats the case you have to go to the dealer who is going to charge w.e. the hourly rate is to program it and they might refuse to even touch it if you replaced the module yourself and then brought the car to them. You’ve had a couple of these, you know what the shell and other parts are worth, just low ball the shit out of the guy. ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/18 "2011-07-12T18:55:03Z")
> [@n00b checkin in](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n00b-checkin-in/43811/16): > > It could be as simple as the module, but most modules like that require programming(atleast domestic platforms I’ve worked on). If thats the case you have to go to the dealer who is going to charge w.e. the hourly rate is to program it and they might refuse to even touch it if you replaced the module yourself and then brought the car to them. You’ve had a couple of these, you know what the shell and other parts are worth, just low ball the shit out of the guy. Im pretty sure its just plug and play, I replaced the ecm on my old talon I think there located in the same spot, just unplug and replug in… The wierd shit is that the tcm was actually out of the car and the car still ran? Even broken I thought it still needed to be plugged in but I guess not? Half of what hes asking if prolly the most im gonna get outta the guy lol and thats only becuase i ended up knowing the kid. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/19 "2011-07-12T18:59:54Z")
Even if the module is the base problem. The trans has slipped for a while and burnt the clutches therfore your doin a trans anyway ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392/20 "2011-07-12T19:02:04Z")
> [@FS: Lots of DVD's](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-lots-of-dvds/43550/44): > > Even if the module is the base problem. The trans has slipped for a while and burnt the clutches therfore your doin a trans anyway good point depending on when the tcm if the problem burnt out. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/transmission-or-tcm-on-91-talon-tsi-auto/259392.md?page=2)