# trying to find a good luxury AWD sedan-opinions needed **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 24, 2008, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771 "2008-08-24T13:32:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Joehip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@Joehip](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joehip)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/61 "2008-08-25T11:06:06Z")
I bought a low mileage 02 A4 1.8T last year, have put only 6000 on the car and have put over $1000 into it for maintenance and repairs. All work has been done at a shop, because I am too busy/lazy to do it myself. Nothing major (knock on wood) has broken yet, just a few little things. Audi just extended the warranty for the Timing Belts a few months ago to 100K I believe. I would expect Higher mileage cars are likely to see more problems than I have encountered. If you can find a CPO’d one in your price range although I imagine thats unlikely, that could save your some headaches. I say go for it…it will be your time/money spent fixing it. Read up on the Audi message boards to see what the common problems are. Most are not that bad, and can be avoided with proper maintenance. If you find out the car is too expensive or not reliable enough…sell it and move on. Lesson learned. Some of the issues I have seen listed in this thread were specific to the B5, and were supposedly corrected for the B6. Timing belts, engine sludge, coil packs and recently known to me corrosion prone e-brake lines pre 2004 are common for the B6…ohh and they are really slow, so good luck not modding it. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/62 "2008-08-25T11:24:35Z")
> [@orzech](#): > > snip. I was the one that was attacked? I laughed (out loud) when I saw a post looking for a “luxury car” for “$5k”. Period. The end. Can you please show me where I said that a B6 A4 was a terrible car? I have recommended them to many people. I was working on Audis before you could even drive. Hint: It isn’t a coincidence that [this guy](http://scaudi.com/howto/)has the same name as me. Quite frankly. If you are willing to accept that a ~$10k Audi B6 A4 will not be a trouble free experience, then I’m more than willing to help. So far all you have done is said :newman: Add the fact that $10k was the top of your listed price range, and it seems that it would be smarter to take the money on a $10k DD (what you are looking for) that doesn’t have the potential to have several thousand bucks worth of work required right off the bat. Ever changed the clutch on a quattro car? My buddy just picked up a 70k mile B6 A4 showing no signs of wear, and had to replace it within 10k. There went $2k (price a clutch and FW). Same car ended up toasting its AC compressor this summer, there went another $1500, good thing the car is CPO’d and it cost him $50. What about brakes? Brake sensors? Wheel hubs? Timing belts? I’m sure you have all of the stupid Audi tools that are required for basic scheduled maintenance, and a VAG-COM as well. You’re right, keep on arguing. I stick by my original post. > [@walter](#): > > lol @ luxury and $5k price tag. I’d buy the 3.0 if I were you. It is a tank of a motor, and a far better bet for a daily driven car that won’t be modded. And for the record, it is “I could not care less”. As in “I could not care less that you have owned 15 piece of shit DSMs”. > [@orzech](#): > > 93–dxhatch is about the only person that has actually stated some facts. Everyone else just jumps in and says they are expensive? No, not really, you just can’t read, and chose to ignore the “facts” that you don’t like. :roll2: ---
**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/63 "2008-08-25T12:28:35Z")
see now a post like that has much more useful information and i appreciate that. I was just pissed that you jumped to the assumption that i want to be an e-thug baller with a luxury car and that i would not be able to handle the all the service stuff. So thats why i got pulled off topic also. I can take advice, but when you say it in such a way, it just kinda pushed me the wrong way. so anyways, now that i know you have experience with these cars and know your stuff its a whole different story. I was more so looking at the 3.0 because having a NT would be much better for me because if i got the 1.8 next thing i know i would be getting a manifold fabbed up for a 35r and looking to run 30 lbs of boost :). Im not looking for performance, anything that can get through the shit rds around here in the winter because half the time they dont feel like plowing them in the winter. is there anything i should look out for in either the 1.8 or the 3.0? As of right now im looking at a 02 3.0 for 7500. I need to talk to the owner to get some more details but was hoping i could get him down to 7k or so. That leaves me with 3k to do timing belt, water pump, tires, ball joints etc. Also how are the automatic transmissions in these cars? Was thinking with the 3.0 the car would be beat on less compared to the 1.8t. this assumption correct? ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/64 "2008-08-25T12:53:26Z")
the motor and frame of an 02 3.0 will far outlast the other things listed above. ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/65 "2008-08-25T18:19:13Z")
Specifics? A/C compressor, 3 O2 sensors, HID bulbs, Coolant fans, coolant temp sensor, CV boots, Front and rear pads, front rotors, 2nd set of control arms(6), complet new vacuum system, plugs, air filter, Fuel filter, shocks front and rear, ABS control unit, tires for the summer wheels, tires for the winter wheels, etc. I’m about $600 a month for the last 7 months to keep my passat in good running condition. (F-A-I-L) Hopefully it won’t continue this way. X… ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/66 "2008-08-26T05:24:07Z")
> [@Xander](#): > > Specifics? > > A/C compressor, 3 O2 sensors, HID bulbs, Coolant fans, coolant temp sensor, CV boots, Front and rear pads, front rotors, 2nd set of control arms(6), complet new vacuum system, plugs, air filter, Fuel filter, shocks front and rear, ABS control unit, tires for the summer wheels, tires for the winter wheels, etc. > I’m about $600 a month for the last 7 months to keep my passat in good running condition. (F-A-I-L) Hopefully it won’t continue this way. > > X… :poke: ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/67 "2008-08-26T05:44:43Z")
> [@Xander](#): > > Specifics? > > A/C compressor, 3 O2 sensors, HID bulbs, Coolant fans, coolant temp sensor, CV boots, Front and rear pads, front rotors, 2nd set of control arms(6), complet new vacuum system, plugs, air filter, Fuel filter, shocks front and rear, ABS control unit, tires for the summer wheels, tires for the winter wheels, etc. > I’m about $600 a month for the last 7 months to keep my passat in good running condition. (F-A-I-L) Hopefully it won’t continue this way. > > X… Sounds like where I was with the s4:banghead: ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/68 "2008-08-26T05:57:07Z")
> [@Bigairskier1580](#): > > I’d find a Subaru Legacy with leather and cold weather package and call it a day. So would I. I don’t think an Audi is _beyond_ your mechanical ability to repair, it’s just that you’ll be constantly in that state. Plus, Legacys can be had with heated seats and the like. > All the other options will be money pits likely. Which is a poor quality of daily driven cars. ---
**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/69 "2008-10-05T16:38:31Z")
well finally picked up the new b6 a4 🙂 2002 a4 1.8t 5 speed quattro 100k front/rear heated seats sport package bose sound with 6 disc indash changer extra set of stock 5 spoke 17" rims new timing belt at 80k new clutch at 90k southern car $8,000 so for all you haters that laughed about a nice vehicle for under 10k:suckoff: plans for the car: s4 door fins s4 mirrors (maybe) paint match the lower grey trim 20% tint RNS-E audi navigation plus sell the multi spoke rims, get a set of winter tires for the OEM b6 5 spokes pick up a nice set of rims for the summer (not sure what though) trying to keep this car basically stock and not mod it. Car runs great and smooth as it should. and just need a couple things tended to (missing foglight trim, cracked tweeter cover). Overall i am very pleased with the purchase and couldn’t go wrong for the price. now on to the pics… (will get some better ones once everything is finished up) ![http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3165000-3165999/3165566_1_full.jpg?063516-279](http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3165000-3165999/3165566_1_full.jpg?063516-279) ![http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3165000-3165999/3165566_2_full.jpg?063516-279](http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3165000-3165999/3165566_2_full.jpg?063516-279) ![http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3165000-3165999/3165566_3_full.jpg?063516-279](http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3165000-3165999/3165566_3_full.jpg?063516-279) ![http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3165000-3165999/3165566_5_full.jpg?063516-279](http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3165000-3165999/3165566_5_full.jpg?063516-279) ![http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3165000-3165999/3165566_4_full.jpg?063516-279](http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3165000-3165999/3165566_4_full.jpg?063516-279) ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/70 "2008-10-05T17:27:30Z")
nice pick up :tup: ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/71 "2008-10-05T17:44:53Z")
8k is cheap, southern is a plus. ---
**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/72 "2008-10-05T18:09:31Z")
Nice find. Should be a great car, having the timing belt (even tho its honestly a pretty simple task IMO, having just done it this week) and the clutch done is a huge bonus. So far there hasnt been anything I havent been able to fix myself, control arms, wheel bearings, abs module, turbo, timing belt, water pump etc. Everything seems pretty straight forward etc, no different than any other VW I have ever worked on. Dan ---
**Author:** ![double\_j](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/double_j/32/7380_2.png) [@double\_j](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/double_j)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/73 "2008-10-05T18:32:13Z")
> [@orzech](#): > > I have never taken my car to mechanic ever. Ill read and read and read some more until i know the car, what to do, and how to do it. Wrenching is wrenching. take your time, buy the right parts (not autozone), do it right and do it once. so what else can you do? With that attitude, you could own a B5 S4; the Holy Grail for the VW/Audi haters. The car you picked up looks very nice. I like B6s a lot. You do need to chip it before you do any of that cosmetic stuff. Then it will be able to get out of it’s own way. Get an old laptop, and get a VAG-COM cable and software. It’s pretty much the most useful tool you can buy for these things. Also, fresh full synthetic every 5K is a must. These like to get gooped up. ---
**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/74 "2008-10-05T20:31:59Z")
the b5 s4 was the first audi to really catch my eye. decided to go with the b6 a4 for a few dif. reasons. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/75 "2008-10-06T09:39:11Z")
sounds like you did well for your needs… personally, I’ll never own an AWD car with an open rear diff like the gen IV quattro system. it just makes the car super numb to drive. I am jealous of your heated seats x 4. ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/76 "2008-10-06T09:56:50Z")
nice find. ---
**Author:** ![TurboTSi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@TurboTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTSi)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/77 "2008-10-06T10:06:53Z")
looks good Chris! ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/78 "2008-10-06T11:51:18Z")
Hey biter, don’t get the S4 door moldings, that’s like, the only difference lol. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/79 "2008-10-06T11:54:11Z")
no 1990 AWD civic no care ---
**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771/80 "2008-10-06T15:53:42Z")
> [@Daddie](#): > > Hey biter, don’t get the S4 door moldings, that’s like, the only difference lol. > > ☹ they are going on and getting painted :fuzzyfish:🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trying-to-find-a-good-luxury-awd-sedan-opinions-needed/53771.md?page=5)