# TT 427 Supra
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tt-427-supra/246523
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [September 2, 2009, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tt-427-supra/246523 "2009-09-02T06:07:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tt-427-supra/246523/41 "2009-09-04T15:08:30Z")
> [@Who Has Purchased a Plug n Play HID 9007 Kit?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-has-purchased-a-plug-n-play-hid-9007-kit/22503/12):
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> Cam swap gets you 125whp? Under 400?
400rwhp
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### Author:  [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tt-427-supra/246523/42 "2009-09-04T15:13:19Z")
either way, it is very subjective to which motor is better. There is no doubt that both engines that make great power and are freaks. I think we are just both a little biased.
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### Author:  [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tt-427-supra/246523/43 "2009-09-04T15:18:29Z")
> [@FS: Fuji Finepix S602Z Digital Camera](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-fuji-finepix-s602z-digital-camera/20036/19):
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> Wrong.
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> BPU on a 2JZGTE can get you like 400whp. That’s 125whp or so over stock. Probably wouldnt cost you more than $500 or so.
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> What power adders, besides nitrous, can get you there with LSx?
my cam was less then $300. My valves spring kit was $300 and my ported oil pump and LS2 timing chain wasnt a Must have, but a more of a liability so they were extra expenses that werent needed.
my car is a perfect example of that 400whp Margin for $500…FYI, Texas-Speed advertises a Minimum of 55rwhp Gain with my cam on stock heads…I went from 351rwhp to 412rwhp from a cam swap…I’d say that 55+ rwhp goal was met.
I have the tuning software, I have the knowledge to do the cam swap, just not the tools…so the extra cost for the install and dyno tune dont count.
needless to say im not taking anything away from the 2JZ so dont think I am. They are a BAD ASS engine and Both the 2JZ and LSx family’s have their strong points.
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