# Tuning Issue

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [June 23, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466 "2008-06-23T12:16:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Bucker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bucker/32/7379_2.png) [@Bucker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bucker)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/1 "2008-06-23T12:16:27Z")

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Hello,

I have an AEM F/I controller that I am using to tune my supercharged 2006 Scion tC running 10.5PSI and using 550cc injectors. I had a tune done by Dezod, but there are a couple rough spots I didn’t get the opportunity to work out. The one that really bothers me is that there is some sort of hesitation, or what really seems to act like a rev limiter or fuel cut, at ~5800 RPM’s. My redline is ~6200 and thats where I make the most boost, so this is actually a pretty big deal.

I checked out my data log, and it is not running lean at all at that point, it is actually ~12-12.5. I tried to pull anywhere from -.5 to -2.0 degrees of timing, and that really had minimal effect. I also tried adding a bit of fuel, and of course that didn’t do it for me. I don’t think pulling fuel is going to help this.

I changed the plugs in an attempt to remedy it, but that didnt do much other than make it run a bit smoother (the old plugs were pretty fouled from running VERY rich for a while).

If anyone can help in any way it would be much appreciated.

On a side note, Paul Dezod is an incredible guy to deal with, and his work is definitely top notch. I just didn’t allow enough time to get this perfect, and I am definitely doing business with them in the future.

Thanks everyone,

Will

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### Author: ![Firehawk853](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/firehawk853/32/7607_2.png) [@Firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Firehawk853)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/2 "2008-06-23T12:21:24Z")

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knocking? some kind of timing pull protection?

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### Author: ![Bucker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bucker/32/7379_2.png) [@Bucker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bucker)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/3 "2008-06-23T12:30:23Z")

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I could see that being the case, but I don’t understand it. There really is no reason for the car to freak, the wideband is seeing really safe AFR’s, and it shouldn’t be detonating for any reason (the old plugs didnt show any sign of detonation).

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### Author: ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/4 "2008-06-23T12:35:02Z")

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is the AEM FI controller a piggyback?

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### Author: ![Bucker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bucker/32/7379_2.png) [@Bucker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bucker)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/5 "2008-06-23T12:42:34Z")

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Yeah, its a piggyback. It is a pretty cool one, and works well for part-throttle, but I can not advance timing with it.

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### Author: ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/6 "2008-06-23T12:43:23Z")

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All i can add is that i have NEVER had good luck with piggybacks on OBD2 computers.

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### Author: ![Bucker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bucker/32/7379_2.png) [@Bucker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bucker)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/7 "2008-06-23T12:49:17Z")

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Grr. You make me want to cry. In all honesty, everything works pretty well (idle is rouch sometimes, sometimes perfect) except for this issue I am trying to fix right now.

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### Author: ![SOLITUDE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@SOLITUDE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SOLITUDE)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/8 "2008-06-23T13:54:33Z")

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I was reading that a wile ago the boost can blow out the spark on a the plug?

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### Author: ![AShort](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ashort/32/4947_2.png) [@AShort](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AShort)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/9 "2008-06-23T14:03:30Z")

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> [@suzukifreek](#):
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> I was reading that a wile ago the boost can blow out the spark on a the plug?

?

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#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/10 "2008-06-23T14:08:20Z")

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> [@suzukifreek](#):
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> I was reading that a wile ago the boost can blow out the spark on a the plug?

:picard: :picard: please no more

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#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/11 "2008-06-23T14:14:08Z")

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> [@suzukifreek](#):
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> I was reading that a wile ago the boost can blow out the spark on a the plug?

![http://images.google.com/url?q=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/Smoking_Crack.jpg&usg=AFQjCNHZTM2JZaYxoGxxK7NVMGC05J6wwg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/6/3/63a212da20581e3f486e1e13834a6567fd7287bc.html)

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### Author: ![SOLITUDE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@SOLITUDE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SOLITUDE)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/12 "2008-06-23T14:16:48Z")

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> [@JDMjunkie](#):
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> ?

im just trying to help you jack ass

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#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/13 "2008-06-23T14:18:27Z")

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> [@suzukifreek](#):
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> I was reading that a wile ago the boost can blow out the spark on a the plug?

Not my issue

There are people with my supercharger running 12pounds and doing alright. I cant really get too much input from them though, because they tend not to post on the Scion forums (full of retards).

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#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/14 "2008-06-23T14:21:29Z")

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> [@Bucker](#):
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> Not my issue
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> There are people with my supercharger running 12pounds and doing alright. I cant really get too much input from them though, because they tend not to post on the Scion forums (full of retards).

hmm…well gl

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#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/15 "2008-06-23T14:44:36Z")

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> [@suzukifreek](#):
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> im just trying to help you jack ass

learn grammar before you type.

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#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/16 "2008-06-23T14:48:47Z")

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Seriously, I am actually looking for some help from someone, anyone, with a clue. recommendations on a fix, potential causes of the problem, etc. I like the idea of it pulling timing, but I still don’t see why there would be so much, and why would my timing correction help a bit?

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#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/17 "2008-06-23T14:54:14Z")

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is it knocking or pinging at all? did you try to pull a little more timing?

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### Author: ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/18 "2008-06-23T15:05:44Z")

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this may sound simple but check all of your grounds, engine to battery and chassis to battery.

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#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/19 "2008-06-23T15:06:25Z")

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i got a idea…drive down here to va, spend a weekend with me and well take the car to ptunning and have then figure out your problems and give you a nice tune

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### Author: ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-issue/50466/20 "2008-06-23T15:21:14Z")

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> [@suzukifreek](#):
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> I was reading that a wile ago the boost can blow out the spark on a the plug?

this is a common problem on stock ign in some apps, but I doubt it is the issue here. If it were, a quick way to tell / check is closing the gap a bit.

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