# tuning school?
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [October 15, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051 "2007-10-15T18:57:32Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 2
### Author:  [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/21 "2007-10-16T06:23:26Z")
[quote=“Zer0DazE,post:19,topic:37051"”]
truth
and its not like its something you go to a class and POW you are a master tuner. i would suggest doing it for a year or so on your car and some friends cars before you decide you want to charge someone for your services.
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Also the truth. True apprenticeship is a lost discipline these days, and one that is necessary (IMO).
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### Author:  [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/22 "2007-10-16T06:35:09Z")
[quote=“nitroinsane,post:20,topic:37051"”]
wait isnt tunning a major at ub
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if this is so maybe i will take it up as a minor lol.
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### Author:  [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/23 "2007-10-16T06:59:33Z")
I believe it’s super tunnnnning and it’s a master’s program. Seriously though, tuning isn’t something I jumped into. There was a year of me reading a lot of books and online information from trusted sources (not ramblings of armchair tuners on forums). After that there was a year tuning my car and performing minor tweaks on a few friends’ piggybacks. Finally I had not only a knowledge of tuning, but a solid understanding of the interplay of mechanical and tuning changes etc. and it became a job. There are tons of people that stop somewhere between the reading and the understanding, yet try to tune cars anyways. Tuning is not paint by numbers. Without a full understanding you cannot tune properly. There are VERY few hard and fast rules or values in tuning because so many variables interplay with each other. Values that work on one setup can destroy another one in milliseconds so you better understand what you’re doing AND why you’re doing it.
After tuning about 2500 cars over the last 5 years there is so much more I know through real world experience of seeing what works and what doesn’t. I’ve also learned how to tune cars depending on customer needs, driving style, and maintenance habits to keep them running and the customer happy. Learning when to say no is very key. I’ve had several cases where I refused to tune a car because it had mechanical issues preventing it from being tuned properly only to have another “tuner” blow it up. There’s a whole lot about tuning that you can’t learn in a book.
Having a dyno is like having a wrench. It’s only as useful as the person using it. Dynos don’t tune cars. Tuners do. I say that because I’ve actually had people call me that really thought the dyno somehow tuned their car.
If you’re really going to get a dyno let me know. I can go through the pros and cons of the different brands and options.
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/24 "2007-10-16T07:11:56Z")
I was thinking about buying a 5 axis CNC machine. Anyone know where I could take a CAD class?
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/25 "2007-10-16T07:15:11Z")
👏
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/26 "2007-10-16T07:27:03Z")
spend the money on a nice car, and pay mike to tune it
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### Author:  [@1BADGPGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1BADGPGT)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/27 "2007-10-16T09:12:38Z")
I wont take the wind from your sails. If you want to learn to tune…do it. Buying a dyno, I’d hold off a good while on that.
Tuning is a science and a art. I know a ~fair~ amount about tuning. I started off tweeking and tuning carbeurators, distributor recurve kits, and reading plugs…way before wide band O2s were cheap enough for personal purchase. Its helped me learn how and what to change and and what to leave alone, and what to try after this or that.
If you’re really into it, stick with it.
Good luck.
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### Author:  [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/28 "2007-10-16T09:54:09Z")
[quote=“Fry,post:24,topic:37051"”]
I was thinking about buying a 5 axis CNC machine. Anyone know where I could take a CAD class?
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^lmao, Hardinge makes a good setup. I’ll teach you CAD.
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### Author:  [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/29 "2007-10-16T09:59:55Z")
👏
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/30 "2007-10-16T10:19:42Z")
if you have money for a dyno buy a better fucking car than a CRX
and take english as a second language class at your local community college
[quote=“Motocrossx23,post:28,topic:37051"”]
^lmao, Hardinge makes a good setup. I’ll teach you CAD.
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jesus… :picard:
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### Author:  [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/31 "2007-10-16T10:22:58Z")
[quote=“66impalass,post:30,topic:37051"”]
if you have money for a dyno buy a better fucking car than a CRX
and take english as a second language class at your local community college
jesus… :picard:
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^Jesus had longer hair.
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### Author:  [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/32 "2007-10-16T10:49:02Z")
[quote=“1BADGPGT,post:27,topic:37051"”]
I wont take the wind from your sails. If you want to learn to tune…do it. Buying a dyno, I’d hold off a good while on that.
Tuning is a science and a art. I know a ~fair~ amount about tuning. I started off tweeking and tuning carbeurators, distributor recurve kits, and reading plugs…way before wide band O2s were cheap enough for personal purchase. Its helped me learn how and what to change and and what to leave alone, and what to try after this or that.
If you’re really into it, stick with it.
Good luck.
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:jawdrop: You mean try to learn a car related skill, and do something on your own?
That being said, I’ll never tune my Subaru. There are too many variables, and the risk of damage isn’t worth it to me. Sooner or later I’ll buy a beater and learn. There are a couple self taught guys on this board that do good work. It’s certainly possible.
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### Author:  [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/33 "2007-10-16T10:57:16Z")
This is one of the funnier threads I’ve ever found on NYS.
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### Author:  [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/34 "2007-10-16T12:26:40Z")
to the guy asking where to learn CAD to use a CNC…wrong program. you need to learn CAM or something of that genre…you need to learn the coding, not the rendering.
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### Author:  [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/35 "2007-10-16T12:59:55Z")
[quote=“focusinprogress,post:34,topic:37051"”]
to the guy asking where to learn CAD to use a CNC…wrong program. you need to learn CAM or something of that genre…you need to learn the coding, not the rendering.
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dear god, please tell me you saw frys blatant sarcasm? :hang:
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### Author:  [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/36 "2007-10-16T13:05:48Z")
[quote=66impalass;705027]if you have money for a dyno buy a better fucking car than a CRX
Ya kuz his 11 second crx is a piece of fuckin shit
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/37 "2007-10-16T13:07:17Z")
[quote=“97\_B18b1,post:36,topic:37051"”]
Ya kuz his 11 second crx is a piece of fuckin shit
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an 11 sec peice of shit yes…
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### Author:  [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/38 "2007-10-16T13:08:21Z")
being fast doesn’t make something nice.
edit:
^
that was some siiqqq fast posting… and from his post you can see that it was fast, but not nice.
see the similarities?
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### Author:  [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/39 "2007-10-16T13:11:35Z")
It’s funny that he’s pointing out the fact that the guy being sarcastic doesn’t know what he’s talking about… If he actually tried to learn something instead of bashing people who are trying he wouldn’t have that problem.:poke:
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### Author:  [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2007, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning-school/37051/40 "2007-10-16T13:12:48Z")
true, im just sayin it seems like the kid worked hard on the car and he has video to prove how fast it is and i would be a little upset if someone said that about my car if i had put that much work into it.
edit—\>This was a response to zerodaze btw eesti just beat me to the punch lol
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