# Turbo died. Ball bearing next? **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 20, 2005, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974 "2005-12-20T14:44:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/1 "2005-12-20T14:44:48Z")
After only a few months of boosting, my AGP RS60T (Turbonetics 60-1/T31 setup with a Bullseye exhaust housing) took a dump on me. Car started smoking like a freight train, so I took it home. My enitre garage filled with a blueish smoke, and smelled like burnt oil. After a few other tests, I yanked the turbo off. Oil came out of the exhaust housing, and smelled horribly like burnt oil. I also noticed some roughness on the compressor wheel, and saw some nicks/roughness in the compressor cover. Looks like AGP is going to take care of me though (the turbo is still under warranty,) and I should get it back relatively soon, and I’ll be selling it and going with (probably) a ball bearing setup of some sort. Possibly the PTE SCM61 BB, but I haven’t decided. I’d go FP 3065 if I had the extra money to burn, but for the cost I can buy an SCM61 and a JM Fabrications sheet metal intake manifold. ![[http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics) 002.jpg]([http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics) 002.jpg) ![[http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics) 003.jpg]([http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics) 003.jpg) ![[http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics) 004.jpg]([http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics) 004.jpg) ![[http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics) 005.jpg]([http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics) 005.jpg) ![[http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics) 006.jpg]([http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/Turbonetics) 006.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/2 "2005-12-20T15:16:07Z")
Has this car ran 1 week in a row ? not trying to be a dick. ---
**Author:** ![81Boo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ac8455/32.png) [@81Boo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/81Boo)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/3 "2005-12-20T15:25:51Z")
> [@mesteño](#): > > Has this car ran 1 week in a row ? > not trying to be a dick. that would be a record. i live about 15 minutes from him and have never seen his car, EVER ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/4 "2005-12-20T15:26:49Z")
Actually, it’s been running really well up until this. I saw as much as 49lbs/min of airflow, but wasn’t using all of it. I think the last time it was really in-and-out of working right was when I was trying to get the vacuum pump to work right a few months back and kept blowing fuses. Other than that, it was just some little issues like tuning and buying/welding on an external wastegate. I drove it every day to West Mifflin (25 miles round trip) and around town here until the turbo died. (Mileage isn’t insanely high, I know. Just using it for reference.) ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/5 "2005-12-20T15:28:19Z")
> [@4x4Blazer](#): > > that would be a record. i live about 15 minutes from him and have never seen his car, EVER :blah: :blah: :blah: It’ll be back on the road tonight if I can find some crush washers for the 14B, would you like for me to bring it by your house for inspection? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![81Boo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ac8455/32.png) [@81Boo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/81Boo)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/6 "2005-12-20T15:47:19Z")
lol, maybe some other time. i would like to see it though ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/7 "2005-12-20T15:55:15Z")
> [@4x4Blazer](#): > > lol, maybe some other time. i would like to see it though 🙂 I’m over at the Performance Standard on 30 every now and then. I know the guy (Vince) so I stop to bullshit with them decently often. If you see my car parked there (it’s almost right across the street from GetGo) stop by and say hi. ---
**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2005, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/8 "2005-12-21T05:45:46Z")
Garrett GT30R or GT35R ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2005, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/9 "2005-12-21T05:50:43Z")
fuck BB ---
**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2005, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/10 "2005-12-21T09:38:44Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > fuck BB What exactly do you feel are the cons of a ballbearing turbine? Beisdes price obviously. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2005, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/11 "2005-12-21T09:52:26Z")
reliability of the center sections pnumatic bearings \> \* but they’re not exactly working yet ---
**Author:** ![81Boo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ac8455/32.png) [@81Boo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/81Boo)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2005, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/12 "2005-12-21T10:54:13Z")
> [@Coup D E'Tat](#): > > 🙂 > > I’m over at the Performance Standard on 30 every now and then. I know the guy (Vince) so I stop to bullshit with them decently often. If you see my car parked there (it’s almost right across the street from GetGo) stop by and say hi. yea, they have the wrecked eclipse for sale ---
**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2005, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/13 "2005-12-21T14:28:24Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > reliability of the center sections pnumatic bearings \> \* but they’re not exactly working yet Im not sure I understand what you’re trying to say here. ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2005, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/14 "2005-12-21T14:51:56Z")
> [@unicorn](#): > > What exactly do you feel are the cons of a ballbearing turbine? Beisdes price obviously. Spool to quick??? ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2005, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/15 "2005-12-21T15:22:21Z")
> [@4x4Blazer](#): > > yea, they have the wrecked eclipse for sale Huh? They have some wrecked EVO’s and M3’s out front, I think, but I can’t remember seeing a wrecked Eclipse? Unless you mean the silver 3G that was wrecked, than fixed. Then yes, they have a recked Eclipse for sale :mrT: ---
**Author:** ![DTMVENG24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@DTMVENG24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DTMVENG24)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2005, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/16 "2005-12-21T15:29:26Z")
> [@Coup D E'Tat](#): > > Huh? They have some wrecked EVO’s and M3’s out front, I think, but I can’t remember seeing a wrecked Eclipse? > > Unless you mean the silver 3G that was wrecked, than fixed. Then yes, they have a recked Eclipse for sale :mrT: yea i go by there alot. I only remember seeing a wrecked m5, a blue wrecked evo and the silver 3g that was for sale or sold. ---
**Author:** ![81Boo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ac8455/32.png) [@81Boo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/81Boo)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/17 "2005-12-21T16:54:13Z")
> [@Coup D E'Tat](#): > > Unless you mean the silver 3G that was wrecked, than fixed. Then yes, they have a wrecked Eclipse for sale :mrT: yep. it was smashed up pretty good too. now it looks great. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2005, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/18 "2005-12-21T17:20:21Z")
> [@unicorn](#): > > Im not sure I understand what you’re trying to say here. because of the size of the center shaft with a ball bearing turbo they’re really not designed at this point in time to accept any wheels larger than the 35r setup. the shaft becomes too weak with the stress of the larger wheels and in “testing” tends to develope stress cracking and breaking. ---
**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/19 "2005-12-21T17:38:21Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > because of the size of the center shaft with a ball bearing turbo they’re really not designed at this point in time to accept any wheels larger than the 35r setup. the shaft becomes too weak with the stress of the larger wheels and in “testing” tends to develope stress cracking and breaking. Maybe, but his “non-ball bearing” center section already shit itself after only a few months also. And honestly do you really think he would need to go any larger than a GT35R? They’ve pushed quite a few full weight EVO’s into the 10’s. :dunno: ---
**Author:** ![SmokinDiesel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@SmokinDiesel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SmokinDiesel)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2005, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974/20 "2005-12-21T19:19:47Z")
> [@unicorn](#): > > Maybe, but his “non-ball bearing” center section already shit itself after only a few months also. And honestly do you really think he would need to go any larger than a GT35R? They’ve pushed quite a few full weight EVO’s into the 10’s. :dunno: I understand what he is saying. But … like 1320 said … I dont see him needed any more than a GT35R [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-died-ball-bearing-next/178974.md?page=2)