# turbo k20+ e-85 :) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 13, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-k20-e-85/160290 "2010-09-13T08:21:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-k20-e-85/160290/1 "2010-09-13T08:21:55Z")
This is not my car but its a close friends, just thought id post this up so that people can see the benefits of it on a boosted car This is a copy and paste of his post Recently, the “Sheetz” gas station located directly across the street from my shop, **Innovative MotorWorks** , installed a set of E85 pumps. (As well as three other locations locally.) Seeing that I don’t drive my personal Civic very far, I decided it was time to throw some corn-fuel in my car. In preparation for the increased fuel demands, I installed a supplementary Bosch 044 fuel pump inline, with the existing Walbro 255lph feeding it. Fuel injectors remain the same, Injector Dynamics 1000cc’s. It isn’t very often that I get to do a good back-to-back comparison of 93 octane vs. E85, so I figured this could serve to some you as a good bit of information. The full setup is as follows: Stock K20A2 (completely stock everything inside) RBC intake manifold Full-Race top-mount T3/44 manifold Garrett T3/T67 H.O. (.82 AR exhaust side) 2.5" downpipe (as I cannot fit a 3" with the EKK1 mounts and this manifold) 3" exhaust TiAL 44mm gate TiAL Q BOV 2.5" charge piping Full-Race ver1 vertical flow intercooler Walbro 255lph in-tank, Bosch 044 inline ID1000’s @ 60psi base pressure For those that don’t know the car: ![http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/IMG_4781.jpg](http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/IMG_4781.jpg) ![http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/IMG_9839.jpg](http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/IMG_9839.jpg) ![http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/IMG_9672.jpg](http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/IMG_9672.jpg) ![http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/IMG_9805.jpg](http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/IMG_9805.jpg) Now, onto the results. The final numbers ended up at **520whp / 352wtq @ 15.8psi.** ![http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/DerekT67K20_E85_final.jpg](http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/DerekT67K20_E85_final.jpg) Also, here is E85 vs. the last 93 octane tune I had on the car. 520whp vs. 444whp. ![http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/DerekT67K20_E85vs93.jpg](http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/DerekT67K20_E85vs93.jpg) And finally, here is a pressure comparison of the two above runs. The dotted dark blue line is 93 octane (16.9psi), and the E85 is the lighter blue solid line. ![http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/DerekT67K20_E85vs93_press.jpg](http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/DerekT67K20_E85vs93_press.jpg) I would also like to note that fuel demands increased so much, that going from a 45psi base to a 60psi base, the indicated injector duty cycle went from mid-60’s on gasoline to mid-90’s on E85. More base pressure should solve that, but I’m not real concerned at this time. Also, ignition timing demands are fairly increased with this fuel. It ended up making the most power with 5 degrees of advance over 93 octane. I’ll be reporting my personal gas mileage with the new fuel as well, so I’ll post it up when I run through this tank. ![http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/Coupe_E85_fill.jpg](http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/Coupe_E85_fill.jpg) Cheers, - Derek ---
**Author:** ![upstateclipse](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/upstateclipse/32/7348_2.png) [@upstateclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/upstateclipse)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-k20-e-85/160290/2 "2010-09-13T08:28:42Z")
I never realized that they had so much in them at only 16 psi ---
**Author:** ![Static](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/static/32/7340_2.png) [@Static](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Static)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-k20-e-85/160290/3 "2010-09-13T08:48:38Z")
Impressive numbers. I love how my car runs on e85. Still on the base tune though so I can’t wait to see how it runs fully tuned. I also have a 93 file that I can switch to by using the cruise control in case I get too far from an e85 station. We need more of these in the area ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-k20-e-85/160290/4 "2010-09-13T10:50:43Z")
What’s the car run on slicks? ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-k20-e-85/160290/5 "2010-09-13T11:54:34Z")
i dont think he has gotten a chance to run it at the track yet, since he owns the shop he is a pretty busy guy ---
**Author:** ![mindless](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mindless/32/7286_2.png) [@mindless](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mindless)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-k20-e-85/160290/6 "2010-09-13T12:40:37Z")
Where is this guy located? ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-k20-e-85/160290/7 "2010-09-13T12:56:13Z")
> [@mindless](#): > > Where is this guy located? I’m going to guess Carilise, PA? ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-k20-e-85/160290/8 "2010-09-13T13:28:14Z")
> [@mindless](#): > > Where is this guy located? carlisle pa, his name is d-rob on honda-tech, and is the owner of [innovative-motorworks.com](http://innovative-motorworks.com) where john from [j-k-tuning.com](http://j-k-tuning.com) tunes out of ---
**Author:** ![Estorvito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/estorvito/32/7234_2.png) [@Estorvito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Estorvito)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-k20-e-85/160290/9 "2010-09-13T14:01:16Z")
Cool beans man. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-k20-e-85/160290/10 "2010-09-14T07:43:03Z")
> [@Saxon](#): > > i dont think he has gotten a chance to run it at the track yet, since he owns the shop he is a pretty busy guy ![http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/IMG_9805.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/5/1/5153743620c64646b55021acf5a5d97c9a34aa7e.jpeg) :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-k20-e-85/160290/11 "2010-09-14T08:19:53Z")
> [@neonglh](#): > > ![http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/IMG_9805.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/4/e45579f84685081daec103c166a6fa1da35a7da1.jpeg) > > :shrug: lol. that car is clean and makes great power especially for a bone stock motor