# Turbo lotus hunts, misfires, blah blah blah **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 4, 2006, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625 "2006-05-04T06:19:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/21 "2006-05-04T07:43:33Z")
the thing is, the car behaved like this from the get go… before any street testing. ---
**Author:** ![vq30de](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9dc877/32.png) [@vq30de](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vq30de)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/22 "2006-05-04T08:33:07Z")
b/c emanage suxorz… ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/23 "2006-05-04T08:34:48Z")
> [@newman](#): > > the thing is, the car behaved like this from the get go… before any street testing. maybe it really doesnt like E-Manage at all…I am assuming you have all the updated firmware for it ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/24 "2006-05-04T08:53:22Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > Awe, Newman is getting a taste of his own medicine and he doesn’t like it… > > “Tissues in bulk, isle 6…” > > :lolham: so no talking shit to u when angry. however when everyone else is pissed its ok? anyways goodluck with getting it running ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/25 "2006-05-04T08:56:05Z")
> [@nitroinsane](#): > > so no talking shit to u when angry. however when everyone else is pissed its ok? anyways goodluck with getting it running yep, that’s the short of it lol. ---
**Author:** ![skatanic28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@skatanic28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skatanic28)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/26 "2006-05-04T09:23:34Z")
how the ic piping around the mafs setup? i have no experience with that setup, but i have heard of guys having problems with idle/driveability with nearby bends. ---
**Author:** ![Tkklemann](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tkklemann/32/7298_2.png) [@Tkklemann](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tkklemann)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/27 "2006-05-04T09:58:10Z")
Is the ECU the same as the one’s in the Celica? I don’t think so, I believe it was remapped by Lotus for their version of it. Anyhow, if it is the same, last I knew you would be better off going with a full standalone because of the ECU’s uncanny ability to _learn_ that something is fucking with it. Piggybacks weren’t the way to go with the Toyota ECU’s in the Celica, you were better off standalone. If the ECU is somewhat the same, or the exact same, then you would be better off shooting it with my Desert Eagle 0.50. ---
**Author:** ![MiniSRT4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minisrt4/32/7225_2.png) [@MiniSRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MiniSRT4)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/28 "2006-05-04T10:05:04Z")
^ what he said, while researching for jeremy\_gt’s turbo idea. the e-manage is known to get screwed up on the celica/lotus computers and “lose its memory” on frequent occasion. does the e-manage have the ability to alter the MAF transfer function? if not thats your problem, the MAF isnt calibrated correctly. if you tell me where you are i can swing by maybe and take a look at the software or whatnot. \<----focusinprogress ---
**Author:** ![dirtye30](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dirtye30/32/7333_2.png) [@dirtye30](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dirtye30)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/29 "2006-05-04T10:18:38Z")
i heard that your ECU pooped out all together… k20 swap. ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/30 "2006-05-04T10:21:01Z")
> [@Tkklemann](#): > > because of the ECU’s uncanny ability to _learn_ that something is fucking with it. theres a way around this buy a wideband set one of the analog outputs for a narrowband style graph move the graph to the left so that the 14.7 mark falls @12:1 use the analog output wire as the signal feed from the nb02 boom, stock ecu always trys to tune for 12:1 w/o even realizing it ---
**Author:** ![99\_civic\_si](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99_civic_si/32/7319_2.png) [@99\_civic\_si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99_civic_si)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/31 "2006-05-04T11:18:49Z")
> [@HotRodKid](#): > > theres a way around this > > buy a wideband > set one of the analog outputs for a narrowband style graph > move the graph to the left so that the 14.7 mark falls @12:1 > use the analog output wire as the signal feed from the nb02 > > boom, stock ecu always trys to tune for 12:1 w/o even realizing it you realized that will make the car idle like shit. edit: newman when I was at HC yesterday, something I didn’t think of…get on the gas a touch, and hold it at like 1500 rpms or so, and see what happens then (with no load) See if it still jumps and surges. ---
**Author:** ![ezfd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ezfd/32/7334_2.png) [@ezfd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ezfd)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/32 "2006-05-04T11:42:04Z")
is there a MAP sensor as well?? ---
**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/33 "2006-05-04T11:44:16Z")
> [@ezfd](#): > > is there a MAP sensor as well?? yes, the emanage uses the map sensor for boost by locking/clamping the maf. ---
**Author:** ![ezfd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ezfd/32/7334_2.png) [@ezfd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ezfd)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/34 "2006-05-04T12:26:24Z")
Is there a possibility that the MAP sensor is bad, Jay just had some issues with a weird idle and backfiring with his FD and it turned out that the PowerFC was tuned for the wrong MAP sensor. Just my $0.02 ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/35 "2006-05-04T12:45:27Z")
How many inches of vacuum are you getting at idle? ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/36 "2006-05-04T13:12:22Z")
> [@99\_civic\_si](#): > > you realized that will make the car idle like shit. nope didnt realize that, apparently in the cases ive been involved with, that shitty idle was being sneaky and disguising itself as a smooth idle ---
**Author:** ![99\_civic\_si](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99_civic_si/32/7319_2.png) [@99\_civic\_si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99_civic_si)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/37 "2006-05-04T13:48:25Z")
> [@HotRodKid](#): > > nope didnt realize that, apparently in the cases ive been involved with, that shitty idle was being sneaky and disguising itself as a smooth idle lol, smartass. Anyway, seroiusly though, that motor should be holding an idle w/an a/f of roughly 14-15. The only car I’ve ever tuned to idle rich as hell was my bros FD and that’s because rotaries are evil in general and have many quirks to them. I still think I was somewhere in the 13’s on idle with that even. ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/38 "2006-05-04T18:28:07Z")
any updates ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/39 "2006-05-04T18:32:53Z")
> [@Tkklemann](#): > > Is the ECU the same as the one’s in the Celica? I don’t think so, I believe it was remapped by Lotus for their version of it. Anyhow, if it is the same, last I knew you would be better off going with a full standalone because of the ECU’s uncanny ability to _learn_ that something is fucking with it. Piggybacks weren’t the way to go with the Toyota ECU’s in the Celica, you were better off standalone. If the ECU is somewhat the same, or the exact same, then you would be better off shooting it with my Desert Eagle 0.50. or with any toyota ecu’s really… i know piggybacks don’t work for shit on MR2’s either ---
**Author:** ![Inn-Tune](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/inn-tune/32/7588_2.png) [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625/40 "2006-05-05T06:07:46Z")
E-manage Ultimate = Crap he removed it…problem solved…same as two other people. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-lotus-hunts-misfires-blah-blah-blah/11625.md?page=3)