# Turbo plugs for my GSRT...HELP, the car wont start...its too cold out? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 3, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705 "2007-12-03T22:05:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/1 "2007-12-03T22:05:03Z")
Hey guys, I bought some plugs for my boosted GSR from the honda dealer and i forgot the part #. All i know is i say turbo plugs and they give me plugs. Partschick said so. Since then they have new faces and im sure they dont know what im talking about. Does anyone know what im talking about? I know there are a few here using them. Also if i remember corrctly the gap is like .2 to .25 right? The teg was running “ok” last week. I believe i have a foul plug becuase when it starts up it sounds like a go kart. about 5 mins later it runs perfect. I went to start it tonite (last started a week ago) and it wont turn over. Anyone have this problem with there boosted honda? thanks ---
**Author:** ![91CRXSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91crxsi/32/7247_2.png) [@91CRXSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91CRXSI)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/2 "2007-12-03T23:27:18Z")
Quick search on h-t Stock honda plugs are BCPR6ES you can use the chart to figure out how cold of a plug you want. I’m running the 7’s ( 1 step colder then stock ) with a gap of around .28 on my ls/vtec turbo set up ![http://www.ngk.com/images/ngksparkplug.jpg](http://www.ngk.com/images/ngksparkplug.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![99\_civic\_si](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99_civic_si/32/7319_2.png) [@99\_civic\_si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99_civic_si)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/3 "2007-12-04T00:28:28Z")
yeah, I typically run the bcpr7es-11. I think Mike at innovative stocks them, and I’m pretty sure paul at swerve does too. Stock # at advanced auto is 1095. ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/4 "2007-12-04T05:35:02Z")
DUH…I JUST THOUGH TOF THIS NOW BUT IF I PULL THE PLUG…IT WILL SAY IT RIGHT? ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/5 "2007-12-04T05:40:39Z")
nope. i think honda dealers sell blank plugs so that you can’t x-ref them to other models and have to only use honda brand. IT will have a part number on it, but the real part number is hidden underneath. Once you pull the plug, locate the part number stamped on it, get some rubbing alcohol and some cheesecloth. (if you don’t have cheese cloth, boxer briefs work, but take 40% longer) rub the old HONDA fake part number off to get the **real** NGK number. ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/6 "2007-12-04T05:44:27Z")
[quote=“newman,post:5,topic:39705"”] nope. i think honda dealers sell blank plugs so that you can’t x-ref them to other models and have to only use honda brand. IT will have a part number on it, but the real part number is hidden underneath. Once you pull the plug, locate the part number stamped on it, get some rubbing alcohol and some cheesecloth. (if you don’t have cheese cloth, boxer briefs work, but take 40% longer) rub the old HONDA fake part number off to get the **real** NGK number. [/quote] either that or buy the stock plugs and leave them in the freezer for two days until they are real cold - don’t forget to gap them properly ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/7 "2007-12-04T05:47:16Z")
yeah. that’s another thing. Since it’s been so cold, the thermal expansion and contraction coefficients of the steel hook and copper electrode actually CLOSES the gap. You might just try what chino says with the plugs that are in there. It’s called TEMPERATURE GAPPING. Put the plugs in the freezer (2 days is unnecessary, 5 hours is PLENTY) THEN gap. ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/8 "2007-12-04T05:49:46Z")
idk maybe I have a shitty freezer - mine took 2+ days ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/9 "2007-12-04T06:36:48Z")
HOLY SHIT ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/10 "2007-12-04T06:39:07Z")
[quote=“newman,post:7,topic:39705"”] yeah. that’s another thing. Since it’s been so cold, the thermal expansion and contraction coefficients of the steel hook and copper electrode actually CLOSES the gap. You might just try what chino says with the plugs that are in there. It’s called TEMPERATURE GAPPING. Put the plugs in the freezer (2 days is unnecessary, 5 hours is PLENTY) THEN gap. [/quote] This cleared up my slight miss with the legacy (re-gapping for winter) I also think it helped with my gas mileage. I left my plugs in the freezer overnight. ~12 hours ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/11 "2007-12-04T07:04:55Z")
I love my fine wire plat plugs for m turbo car they don’t wear out fast and I can run a big gap. ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/12 "2007-12-04T07:32:32Z")
REALLY? toss them in the freezer? hmmm. yea ill check the gaps today ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/13 "2007-12-04T07:43:43Z")
yea but if you have a side by side freezer, not the up & down type you need to make sure its on the top shelf ---
**Author:** ![Inn-Tune](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/inn-tune/32/7588_2.png) [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/14 "2007-12-04T07:48:05Z")
[quote=“99\_civic\_si,post:3,topic:39705"”] yeah, I typically run the bcpr7es-11. I think Mike at innovative stocks them, and I’m pretty sure paul at swerve does too. Stock # at advanced auto is 1095. [/quote] Thanks man. Those would work. bcpr7es is even better since they start with a smaller gap so you don’t have to gap them down as much. I always have tons in stock. ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/15 "2007-12-04T08:57:45Z")
OH RIGHT RIGHT…SIDE BY SIDE IS BAD…GUESS I CANT DO IT THEN NYS BS AGAIN:picard: people who dont actually contribute:spunk::spunk::spunk: ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/16 "2007-12-04T09:36:44Z")
are u cerain its even the plugs? ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/17 "2007-12-04T09:45:36Z")
IT DID THIS TO ME LAST WINTER…DIDNT WANT TO START. COME SPRING I REPLACED THE PLUGS AND IT RAN. UNLESS IT JUST REALLY DOESNT LIKE THE COLD ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/18 "2007-12-04T12:00:17Z")
lol sorry - had you going for a while there though. why not use the graph 91crxsi posted and just replace them - its a cheap and easy fix, even if it doesn’t solve your problem it is a simple thing to rule out. ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/19 "2007-12-05T10:26:25Z")
yea so i pulled the plugs and damn there black i called honda and told them my plug reads NGK R on the one side and the other side reads BCPR7E 11 he then said…“duuuuh nope we dont sell those” either hes on crack or something can i get these plugs anywheres? i need them today! thanks ---
**Author:** ![mazdamemories](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mazdamemories/32/5188_2.png) [@mazdamemories](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mazdamemories)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-plugs-for-my-gsrt-help-the-car-wont-start-its-too-cold-out/39705/20 "2007-12-05T10:58:30Z")
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