# Turducken, has anyone? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 20, 2010, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575 "2010-09-20T11:45:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Anonymity](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/anonymity/32/7215_2.png) [@Anonymity](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Anonymity)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/1 "2010-09-20T11:45:51Z")
> A **turducken** is a dish consisting of a de-boned chicken stuffed into a de-boned duck, which itself is stuffed into a de-boned turkey. The word _turducken_ is a [portmanteau](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portmanteau) of **tur** key, **duck** , and chick **en** or h **en**. > The thoracic cavity of the chicken/game hen and the rest of the gaps are stuffed, sometimes with a highly seasoned [breadcrumb](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_crumb) mixture or [sausage](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sausage) meat, although some versions have a different [stuffing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuffing) for each bird. The result is a fairly solid layered poultry dish, suitable for cooking by [braising](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braising), roasting, grilling, or barbecuing. > **Contents** > [[hide](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#)] > \
  • [1 History](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#History) \
  • [2 Variations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#Variations) \
  • [3 Cultural references](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#Cultural_references) \
  • [4 See also](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#See_also) \
  • [5 References](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#References) > > - [6 External links](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#External_links) > > **[[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turducken&action=edit§ion=1)] History** > Roasts of nested birds or other animals have been documented for centuries. The Yorkshire Christmas pie, an English dish served in the 18th century, consists of five different birds either layered or nested, and baked in a standing crust.[[1]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-glasse-0)[[2]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-brears-1)[[3]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-edden-2) The pie was normally produced only by the wealthy.[[2]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-brears-1) > In his 1807 _Almanach des Gourmands_, gastronomist [Grimod de La Reynière](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Balthazar_Laurent_Grimod_de_La_Reyni%C3%A8re) presents his _rôti sans pareil_ (“roast without equal”) – a [bustard](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bustard) stuffed with a [turkey](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey_(bird)), a [goose](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goose), a [pheasant](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheasant), a [chicken](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken), a [duck](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck), a [guinea fowl](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guineafowl), a [teal](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Teal), a [woodcock](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodcock), a [partridge](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partridge), a [plover](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plover), a [lapwing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapwing), a [quail](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quail), a [thrush](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrush_(bird)), a [lark](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lark), an [ortolan bunting](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_bunting) and a [garden warbler](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_warbler) – although he states that, since similar roasts were produced by ancient Romans, the _rôti sans pareil_ was not entirely novel.[[4]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-almanach-des-gourmands-3)[[5]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-namur-4)[[6]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-cardelli-5) The final bird is very small but large enough to hold just an olive; it also suggests that, unlike modern multi-bird roasts, there was no stuffing or other packing placed in between the birds. It appears to be illegal to make today as some of the species are [endangered](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endangered_species).[[7]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-krumboltz-6) > Claims that Cajun-[creole](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Creole_cuisine) [fusion](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_cuisine) chef [Paul Prudhomme](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Prudhomme) created this dish as part of the festival Duvall Days in [Duvall, Washington](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duvall,_Washington) in 1983[[8]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-7) are unverified. A November 2005 _[National Geographic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Geographic_Society)_ article by [Calvin Trillin](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Trillin) traced the American origins of the dish to “Hebert’s Specialty Meats” in [Maurice](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice,_Louisiana), [Louisiana](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana), although readers immediately noted that the concept for the dish itself is centuries old. Hebert’s has been commercially producing turduckens since 1985, when an unknown local farmer brought in his own birds and asked Hebert’s to prepare them in that manner. The company prepares around 5,000 turduckens per week around Thanksgiving time.[[9]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-8) > Turducken is often associated with the “do-it-yourself” outdoor food culture also associated with [barbecueing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbecue) and [shrimp boils](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrimp_boil), although some people now serve it in place of the traditional roasted turkey at the [Thanksgiving](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving) meal. As their popularity has spread from Louisiana to the rest of the [Deep South](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_South) and beyond, they have become available through specialty stores in urban areas or by [mail order](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_order). > The popularity of turducken is mostly limited to some parts of the [United States](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) and [Canada](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada). > **[[edit](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turducken&action=edit§ion=2)] Variations** > In the United Kingdom, a turducken is a type of [ballotine](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballotine) called a “three-bird roast” or a “royal roast”.[[10]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-cooksforcooks-9)[[11]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-flavour-magazine-10) The Pure Meat Company offered a five-bird roast (a goose, a turkey, a chicken, a pheasant, and a pigeon, stuffed with sausage), described as a modern revival of the traditional Yorkshire Christmas pie, in 1989;[[12]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-oxford-symposium-11)[[13]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-sunday-times-12) and a three-bird roast (a duck stuffed with chicken stuffed with a pigeon, with sage and apple stuffing) in 1990.[[12]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-oxford-symposium-11)[[13]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken#cite_note-sunday-times-12) Multi-bird roasts are widely available. > One turducken alternative uses a goose instead of a turkey, resulting in a [gooducken](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gooducken). Another variation is the “Turbaconducken” where the recipe includes a wrapping of bacon around the turkey. I am thinking about making one, has anyone mad out? can you pick them up local? any hints and tips? i think i might smoke one to try it… 🙂 ---
    **Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/2 "2010-09-20T11:47:17Z")
    Naw. A cowpigurkey is more my style. ---
    **Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/3 "2010-09-20T11:48:54Z")
    > [@Fry](#): > > Naw. A cowpigurkey is more my style. Now do you cook that in a pit or on a rotisserie? Gotta be one hell of a rotisserie! ---
    **Author:** ![copperlegend](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/copperlegend/32/7445_2.png) [@copperlegend](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/copperlegend)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/4 "2010-09-20T11:51:23Z")
    I had one a few years ago for Thanksgiving in Cleveland. It was pre-made from some caterer. Sooo good. ---
    **Author:** ![Anonymity](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/anonymity/32/7215_2.png) [@Anonymity](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Anonymity)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/5 "2010-09-20T11:56:00Z")
    > [@Fry](#): > > Naw. A cowpigurkey is more my style. lets do cow-\>deer-\>veal-\>pig-\>turkey? ---
    **Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/6 "2010-09-20T11:57:27Z")
    Manbearpig? ---
    **Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/7 "2010-09-20T12:10:31Z")
    [http://www.cajungrocer.com/fresh-foods-holiday-dishes-turducken-c-1\_15\_24.html](http://www.cajungrocer.com/fresh-foods-holiday-dishes-turducken-c-1_15_24.html) Is where I usually get mine, you just need to be really careful as you can dry it out real easily… ---
    **Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/8 "2010-09-20T12:13:22Z")
    > [@Anonymity](#): > > lets do cow-\>deer-\>veal-\>pig-\>turkey? I would love a good old fashioned cowvenealorkurkey like mom used to make. ---
    **Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/9 "2010-09-20T12:14:56Z")
    > [@Anonymity](#): > > lets do cow-\>deer-\>veal-\>pig-\>turkey\>duck\>chicken\>babyduck\>mouse\>frog whoa. ---
    **Author:** ![Anonymity](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/anonymity/32/7215_2.png) [@Anonymity](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Anonymity)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/10 "2010-09-20T12:50:17Z")
    > [@66impalass](#): > > [http://www.cajungrocer.com/fresh-foods-holiday-dishes-turducken-c-1\_15\_24.html](http://www.cajungrocer.com/fresh-foods-holiday-dishes-turducken-c-1_15_24.html) > > Is where I usually get mine, you just need to be really careful as you can dry it out real easily… I saw that place when I google’em How do you cook it? > [@Fry](#): > > I would love a good old fashioned cowvenealorkurkey like mom used to make. 😉 just need to put some bacon on it and you have yourself a deal > [@maxwell](#): > > whoa. whoa^2 ---
    **Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/11 "2010-09-20T12:53:55Z")
    Ya know, the pig is really God’s turducken. Pork, ham, and bacon all from one magical animal. ---
    **Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/12 "2010-09-20T14:29:16Z")
    How about Bacon \>\> Insert other animals here. ---
    **Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/13 "2010-09-20T15:50:08Z")
    > [@Anonymity](#): > > I saw that place when I google’em > > How do you cook it? I use a slow roaster and a lot of butter… That is my most successful attempt. I tried the whole Cajun fried and that was just a mess… Made good sandwiches though ---
    **Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turducken-has-anyone/160575/14 "2010-09-20T17:01:13Z")
    tofurkey\>duck\>chicken tofucken 🙂