# TW HD Packages? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 19, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531 "2007-12-19T15:07:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/21 "2007-12-20T13:32:47Z")
> [@jake](#): > > if your tv has hdmi in then all you need is a hdmi cable if it only has dvi in i wouldnt even bother with an hdmi to dvi it kinda defeats having a hdmi cable in the first place > > my opinion hdmi is not all its cracked up to be, I am an installer for tw and I also have a small business hanging flat panels and installing home audio. For most people just trying to watch tv at night when they get home the composite cables tw gives to you are fine. I have people every weak after i show them composite and hdmi tell me they are going back to best best buy or cc to return the $95 hdmi cable the sales associate told them they needed to get hd I well aware of what i would use to connect the tv, i was wondering if it came with the cable, or if i would have to go and get one. I dont want to run componet, i want DVI or HDMI. And yes, HDMI is awesome. Video and audio in on cable. And yes, i will notice the difference. But thanks for your input. ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/22 "2007-12-20T13:34:05Z")
> [@jabbu](#): > > You always hear about DTV’s “80 HD channels, soon to be 100” but you never hear anyone with DTV raving about the quality of these HD channels… Most are shit. Quality as in would you watch it. > > If you want HDMI cable, hit up [monoprice.com](http://monoprice.com), it’s like under $10 shipped for a 6 footer. There is no difference in $10 hdmi and monstershit’s $120 hdmi. The 30-40 HD channels we get are dam good. They generally look far better than any DVD, so im happy with that… And Yes, there is a difference between a $10 and a $120 cable. But the $120 monster is worse than the $10… ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/23 "2007-12-20T13:43:36Z")
> [@ZOMGVTEK](#): > > The 30-40 HD channels we get are dam good. They generally look far better than any DVD, so im happy with that… > > And Yes, there is a difference between a $10 and a $120 cable. But the $120 monster is worse than the $10… QFT on the cables! monster hdmi cable is such fucking BS ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/24 "2007-12-20T13:46:58Z")
> [@jabbu](#): > > If you want HDMI cable, hit up [monoprice.com](http://monoprice.com), it’s like under $10 shipped for a 6 footer. There is no difference in $10 hdmi and monstershit’s $120 hdmi. Yes, there is a huge difference between a $10 HDMI cable & a “quality” cable. Though, I completely agree, Monster & many others are faaaar to over-marketed. ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/25 "2007-12-20T13:55:18Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > Yes, there is a huge difference between a $10 HDMI cable & a “quality” cable. > > Though, I completely agree, Monster & many others are faaaar to over-marketed. what is this huge difference? please share 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/26 "2007-12-20T14:17:25Z")
Its not a huge difference, but it is there. It really shows when you start getting to long runs of the stuff. But if you just using a $1k tv, and watchin HD tv on it with a 1m cable, your not going to notice it. But yes, if you buy monster… :picard: to you… ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/27 "2007-12-20T14:57:51Z")
> [@chino](#): > > what is this huge difference? please share 🙂 Based on a little electronics experience: -tin plated connectors versus platinum plated -oxygen free wiring versus “standard” wiring -properly twisted cabling versus striaght paired -quality formed terminations versus quick crimped -jacketing to unsulate from noise vs simply sheathed -decent jacketing which can be bent versus pvc jacketing which is a pita to bend (such as a certain [Monoprice.com](http://Monoprice.com) line of products) All of these add up quite a bit when it comes to bandwidth, reliability, and picture quality. Especially when you get into whole house distribution - as the wiring runs lengthen the inefficiencies become extremely apparent. As with all wiring. I personally haven’t spent more then $30 on a 3’ HDMI cable, and no more then $70 on a 25’ HDMI cable. Of personal experience with shit cabling: I def wouldn’t buy the $6 3’ cables. For example, a friend had picked up a $6 HDMI cable from [monoprice.com](http://monoprice.com) - it was not flexible enough to use in his setup. The connector would continually lose contact with the sat box. So we moved the box to a “stright shot” to the tv. When we did there was noticable noise. Well, we moved the settop box again, out of the entertainment center and onto the floor - the noise was gone… but no there was picture breakup again, even though the connector seemed to be completely in the ports. Pulled it out, took one look at it, and from two minutes of it “wiggling” in the settop box, the contact coatings had worn away as if it were tin. A week later & a new (~$20) cable, with the box where he wanted it in the ent. center, and everything was fine. The internets have alot of these stories on such things - so me thinks it wasn’t just one bad product. But hey, cheaper is better right? Hell, look at walmart. ---
**Author:** ![redrum](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redrum/32/7398_2.png) [@redrum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redrum)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/28 "2007-12-20T17:58:34Z")
This is a very nice inexpensive HDMI cable: > **[SYBA SD-HDM-MM-6 6 ft. Black HDMI Male to HDMI Male Cable, Gold Plated...](https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186013)** > > Buy SYBA SD-HDM-MM-6 6 ft. Black HDMI Male to HDMI Male Cable, Gold Plated Connector, RoHS with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Newegg shopping upgraded ™ Very solid construction, gold plated connectors, real nice silicone casing. For short distances its perfect. I wouldnt bother with an expensive cable unless going long distances, or in the case of analog cables. ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/29 "2007-12-20T19:48:02Z")
the explorer8300hd is a non dvr with hdmi output. 8300hdc is the dvr also has hdmi output.i do home installs for time warner right now and i find directtv pic quality 10 times better even in non hd broad cast shows. ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/30 "2007-12-20T19:49:07Z")
if u need hdmi cables i know someone who can get u 3 or 6 foot hdmi cables for 20 bucks ---
**Author:** ![jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@jake](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jake)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/31 "2007-12-20T20:10:41Z")
> [@nitroinsane](#): > > the explorer8300hd is a non dvr with hdmi output. 8300hdc is the dvr also has hdmi output.i do home installs for time warner right now and i find directtv pic quality 10 times better even in non hd broad cast shows. do you work in buffalo? in rochester an 8300hd is an hd dvr and an 8300hdc is a n hd dvr w/ a 2 way cable card ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/32 "2007-12-20T20:45:59Z")
> [@nitroinsane](#): > > if u need hdmi cables i know someone who can get u 3 or 6 foot hdmi cables for 20 bucks The 2m (6ft) HDMI cables are $20 at the apple store… ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/33 "2007-12-21T06:06:32Z")
Jim, i have one you can have. FREE! lol ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/34 "2007-12-21T06:07:18Z")
> [@BuickGN](#): > > Jim, i have one you can have. FREE! > > lol you said you didn’t have any 6 footars! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/35 "2007-12-21T06:10:40Z")
i have one its almost 6 foot, i just checked. ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/36 "2007-12-21T06:16:52Z")
ok throw it out your window to our office 😛 ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/37 "2007-12-21T06:20:20Z")
lol ---
**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/38 "2007-12-21T06:55:00Z")
> [@nitroinsane](#): > > the explorer8300hd is a non dvr with hdmi output. 8300hdc is the dvr also has hdmi output.i do home installs for time warner right now and i find directtv pic quality 10 times better even in non hd broad cast shows. lmao, typical contractor… 8300’s are all combos in Buffalo, SA does make a 8300 SD but buffalo does not get them. The MAIN difference in 8300hd vs 8300hdc is the letter C, which is the cable card, all new boxes have to have them. All 8300’s in buffalo have HDMI. ---
**Author:** ![SPDboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@SPDboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SPDboy)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/39 "2007-12-21T08:03:17Z")
here in Rochester the following boxes have HDMI output 4250HDC (not DVR but uses cablecards) 8300HD (DVR) 8300HDC (DVR uses cablecards) the following boxes offer DVI output 3250HD 8000HD (DVR) 8010HD (DVR) I am not sure if the 4250HDC’s are avail in the Buffalo division yet. as far as pricing here in Rochester your first cable box is included in your digital package whether its HD or not. To add the DVR feature its an additional 9.95 per month per DVR. Its an additional 8.45 a month per additional cable box (again HD or not it doesnt matter) so for example if you have an HD DVR your paying an additional 9.95 a month currently. If you add another HD DVR it would be an addition cable box charge (8.45/mo) plus an addition DVR charge (9.95/mo) so it would be 18.40/mo for an additional DVR cable box. ---
**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531/40 "2007-12-21T14:01:27Z")
The only cards we got are 8300hdc [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-hd-packages/40531.md?page=3)