# Twin turbo Diesel for 2014 Mazda 6 **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 11, 2012, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691 "2012-12-11T08:00:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/21 "2012-12-12T07:50:34Z")
> [@KuntryQuestTSi](#): > > They have a diesel sport bike that makes 120hp and 250 ft-lbs on a 450 pound bike. @ 5500 rpm DETAILS??? ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/22 "2012-12-12T08:42:47Z")
> [@focusinprogress](#): > > DETAILS??? [**HERE**](http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2005/02/25/thunder-star-1200-diesel-by-star-twin/) IIRC it’s a few years old. No one will accept diesel as clean. Also [Diesel duc](http://www.ducati.com/bikes/monster/monster_diesel/index.do#tech_spec.do?&_suid=135533092099703397652619521234) ---
**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/23 "2012-12-12T10:07:25Z")
Lol… Tha’ts not a Diesel fueled ducati. It’s a ducati with a diesel package, as in the cologne company ---
**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/24 "2012-12-12T10:46:53Z")
> [@Jim1234664](#): > > I hear you there, but what if she was driving a 2.5l jetta instead of the tdi getting somewhere in between 25 and 30 mpg (to make this more apples to apples) with the big bump in initial cost for the diesel it would take quite a while to make that back. and if her miles drop from that 18-20k at some point in the future the savings drop off as well. Plus now you have the turbo and all the complicated clean diesel emmisions parts to worry about long term. > > dont get me wrong, I would probably do the same since I enjoy having the “cool” version of a car but the math gets fuzzy for me when I really get into it You are correct and this did cross my mind. Doing the math even with the premium cost on diesel fuel factored in at 18k per year mileage, the diesel will cost about $500 less than the gas version per year. Now the diesel has about a $1300 premium over the gas version (jetta sportwagens) so it will cover itself in a couple years. Is it a huge win… no, not really, but I will also take into account the resale/trade in value of the diesel down the road. People are crackheads with used diesel pricing now days. Personally its our first diesel and as a package the Jetta sportwagen with pano sunroof and nav was really a decent value compared to some of the SUV prices we were looking at again. I was happy to have the wife actually really like the wagon, was not sure if she was going to go for it or not. She is happy as shit only have to put fuel in 2-3 times per month only vs. here old suv at 2 times per week lol. On a side note\* It would be cool if we could get a toyota tacoma (Hilux) diesel in the future, then I would make it look like this lol: ![http://gomotors.net/pics/Toyota/toyota-hilux-04.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/0/8098b7ab81dfdbcec7ef83f3ee2c1489289965b9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/25 "2012-12-12T11:27:07Z")
Now how about quality? I know with diesel trucks, they go hundreds of thousands of miles without major issues. Is this just with trucks again for being beefed up for hauling, or are diesel engines in general just a much stronger/solid built engine? ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/26 "2012-12-12T13:22:40Z")
> [@sobo](#): > > Lol… Tha’ts not a Diesel fueled ducati. It’s a ducati with a diesel package, as in the cologne company WTF, I over read it and assumed ducati wouldn’t make some fggt package like that. Someplace someone did swap a small diesel motor into an old sport bike and I thought it was a duc. ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/27 "2012-12-13T08:42:38Z")
> [@yamba6](#): > > Now how about quality? I know with diesel trucks, they go hundreds of thousands of miles without major issues. Is this just with trucks again for being beefed up for hauling, or are diesel engines in general just a much stronger/solid built engine? Bump ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/28 "2013-01-04T13:28:11Z")
Apparently the Race Car puts down about 400hp. (2.2l diesel) > **[The Mazda6 Diesel Race Car Is All Sorts Of Wonderful](https://jalopnik.com/5973226/the-mazda6-diesel-race-car-is-all-sorts-of-wonderful)** > > One of the best pieces of news to come out of the LA Auto Show was that the diesel powered 2014 Mazda6 would be making it's way to American shores. ---
**Author:** ![JBGTI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jbgti/32/7463_2.png) [@JBGTI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JBGTI)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/29 "2013-01-04T13:44:49Z")
The '14 is in the showroom at Towne. No diesel till later in the year though. ![http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj385/JonnyKrud/424DFD0A-E652-485E-A1D3-BD7B4BA8ACCB-2301-00000147A3230092.jpg](http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj385/JonnyKrud/424DFD0A-E652-485E-A1D3-BD7B4BA8ACCB-2301-00000147A3230092.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/30 "2013-01-04T13:56:34Z")
> [@JBGTI](#): > > The '14 is in the showroom at Towne. No diesel till later in the year though. > > ![http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj385/JonnyKrud/424DFD0A-E652-485E-A1D3-BD7B4BA8ACCB-2301-00000147A3230092.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/d/e/def3a522843a243c13ba966aa163aaae093e14ad.jpeg) I got to stop in sometime and check this out. How do the body lines look in person? I mean I see it looks more sporty than the last model. ---
**Author:** ![BadnewsMike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/badnewsmike/32/7419_2.png) [@BadnewsMike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BadnewsMike)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/31 "2013-01-04T16:44:13Z")
> [@yamba6](#): > > Now how about quality? I know with diesel trucks, they go hundreds of thousands of miles without major issues. Is this just with trucks again for being beefed up for hauling, or are diesel engines in general just a much stronger/solid built engine? Ive put silly miles on my TDI’s and because the motors are low reving, and dont have enough power to hurt them self the motor itself will generally last longer. the downfall is that its still a car, so things like brakes and wheel bearings, struts, clutchs, trans, axles… all still have the same life as a gasser version. just generally because diesels have high resale, and are harder to find its generally worth fixing instead of just trying to replace, thats often why you see alot more miles on them. plus the math really makes it worth it if you drive alot. when i was doing between 50k-75k a year my diesel was worth its weight in gold. But some of the newer tdi’s do have there issues. I know the 04-05 Passat diesels where horrible engines. getting maybe 200k before failing. Im curious to see how well the mazda diesel holds up. ---
**Author:** ![JBGTI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jbgti/32/7463_2.png) [@JBGTI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JBGTI)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/32 "2013-01-04T16:54:16Z")
> [@yamba6](#): > > I got to stop in sometime and check this out. How do the body lines look in person? I mean I see it looks more sporty than the last model. Definitely come check it out. The car is quite nice to look at And another of the diesel GrandAm racer campaigned by SpeedSource ![http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj385/JonnyKrud/FFD4EBF1-B6CB-4CE6-AC0A-1E37F487951D-2301-00000165B5155548.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/3/3/3369b271cb0003900864b559035a685343bc4929.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Doespike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/doespike/32/5083_2.png) [@Doespike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Doespike)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/33 "2013-01-04T18:04:25Z")
> [@focusinprogress](#): > > It’s also good to see more manufacturers embracing diesel as an option…would love to see more small and midsize cars available with diesel engines x2 :tup: ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/34 "2013-01-04T20:16:09Z")
> [@yamba6](#): > > So why havent automakers come out with more vehicles then where MPG are much better, and torque is there unlike a hybrid. Are there any down falls that come with diesel to which it would turn automakers away? My understanding of this is that it is entirely political. weren’t you not able to buy a VW TDI in California or NY state for a long while? We’ve always had diesel VW’s up here and Europe is flooded with them. I swear we discussed this before that there was some phony BS keeping diesel from the American marketplace for a variety of tin-foil hat reasons. ---
**Author:** ![misteroman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misteroman/32/7423_2.png) [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/35 "2013-01-05T05:34:38Z")
I would buy a diesel truck if more tops had diesel. I think the only one is in lewiston. I usually average 1 free fill up a period so doesnt make sense to spend an extra 120 a mo to have a diesel if i dont really need one ---
**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/36 "2013-01-05T06:15:13Z")
> [@misteroman](#): > > I would buy a diesel truck if more tops had diesel. I think the only one is in lewiston. I usually average 1 free fill up a period so doesnt make sense to spend an extra 120 a mo to have a diesel if i dont really need one I think a compact diesel tuck like the size of a tacoma or S10 is where it would make sense. ---
**Author:** ![sasquatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@sasquatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sasquatch)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/37 "2013-01-05T06:24:12Z")
> [@bing](#): > > My understanding of this is that it is entirely political. weren’t you not able to buy a VW TDI in California or NY state for a long while? > > We’ve always had diesel VW’s up here and Europe is flooded with them. I swear we discussed this before that there was some phony BS keeping diesel from the American marketplace for a variety of tin-foil hat reasons. Pretty much. They weren’t sold in Cali and Nys because of “emissions” for a while. I would like to see more diesel stuff, way more fun than a hybrid and equal or better MPG’s. it’s cool to see Mazda taking a stab at it in the US market. VW is the only other company with an affordable diesel that I can think of. Well the Audi a3 too I guess but that’s a little more $$. ---
**Author:** ![KENLUDE97](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kenlude97/32/7464_2.png) [@KENLUDE97](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KENLUDE97)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/38 "2013-01-07T05:28:01Z")
> [@JBGTI](#): > > Definitely come check it out. The car is quite nice to look at > > And another of the diesel GrandAm racer campaigned by SpeedSource > > ![http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj385/JonnyKrud/FFD4EBF1-B6CB-4CE6-AC0A-1E37F487951D-2301-00000165B5155548.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/3/3/3369b271cb0003900864b559035a685343bc4929.jpeg) Apparently the car is a rolling roadblock from this weekends testing at the Roar at the 24hr (Daytona)… And rumored to have blown up a motor also. But if anyone car whip this platform into shape Speedsource can. ---
**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2013, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/39 "2013-01-07T06:39:41Z")
> [@Jeller](#): > > I think a compact diesel tuck like the size of a tacoma or S10 is where it would make sense. I would ABSOLUTELY buy a compact diesel truck…not a GM though. I would LOVE the new F100 to be available with a diesel and a manual trans. ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2013, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691/40 "2013-01-07T07:27:59Z")
> [@KENLUDE97](#): > > Apparently the car is a rolling roadblock from this weekends testing at the Roar at the 24hr (Daytona)… And rumored to have blown up a motor also. > > But if anyone car whip this platform into shape Speedsource can. I’m curious to hear about this report and how it did. This car really is peaking my interest. Never really looked into a Diesel car, but this one looks fantastic with the body lines they decided to choose for it. Something about the front end just finally looks right and not the stupid smile the cars had the past generation. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/twin-turbo-diesel-for-2014-mazda-6/227691.md?page=3)