# Two men killed in botch robbery: Reading PA **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 10, 2013, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767 "2013-11-10T10:53:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/1 "2013-11-10T10:53:31Z")
[http://www.wfmz.com/families-want-justice-for-suspects-killed-after-robbery-of-kricks-korner-store-in-reading/-/121798/22819374/-/10u2xls/-/index.html#.UnqkHzeA0Ek.facebook](http://www.wfmz.com/families-want-justice-for-suspects-killed-after-robbery-of-kricks-korner-store-in-reading/-/121798/22819374/-/10u2xls/-/index.html#.UnqkHzeA0Ek.facebook) > READING, Pa. - Twenty-four hours after two men were killed during a botched > robbery in Reading, the corner store where it happened was open again for > business Tuesday. Crowds gathered outside Krick’s Korner, 1671 N. 9th St., and > candles flickered on the sidewalk Tuesday. Two masked men armed with guns burst > inside the store Monday afternoon. They were met by a man described by officials > as a “concerned citizen,” who witnessed the robbery in progress. > “He saw > the first suspect with his arms extended, holding a large revolver, and he > looked and saw a second suspect, also with his arms extended,” said Sgt. John > Solecki, Reading Police Dept. That citizen, whose name has not been released, > called 911. When the two men came outside, they threatened him, and the tables > were turned, said police. The store owner had no comment Tuesday, but former > city councilman and store regular, Mike Schorn, spoke on his behalf. “He’s so > sad by the whole thing because it’s bad for his business, and it’s very sad for > the obvious result,” said Schorn > Alexander Garcia-Bialek was charged > Tuesday, keeping his head down as he was led out of police headquarters > overnight. Garcia-Bialek, 21, was picked up at his home in Fleetwood, and police > are calling him the would-be getaway driver. “He was charged as an accomplice > because he was involved in the planning of this robbery where they targeted that > store,” said Solecki. Garcia-Bialek is facing second degree murder and > conspiracy charges. Police said they are confident no one else was involved in > the robbery. Meantime, family members of the two masked men spoke out Tuesday. > “It’s not fair,” said Virginia Medina, mother of 24-year-old William Medina, who > police said robbed Krick’s Korner store alongside 18-year-old Robert De Carr on > Monday. The two men were shot and killed by a private citizen while leaving the > store, and family members want to see charges pressed. “[William] had no right > to lose his life over something that man could have called the police for,” said > Medina. “He took the law into his own hands and walked away scot-free.” “How > about if people just start running around here, policing the city on their own? > How much worse is it going to get?” said Peter Ratel, Medina’s cousin. The > family members said they are hurt by comments suggesting the alleged robbers > were “thugs.” According to Medina, William was “no big hard criminal” and was > rather a family-man who loved his young daughter. Robert De Carr was described > similarly by his sister, Taylor De Carr. “My brother was a good kid,” she told > 69 News. While family members are demanding justice, police and prosecutors said > the man who shot and killed the two suspects acted within the law. City police > had a lot of investigating to do once they arrived on the scene Monday > afternoon. They found the two suspects lying dead in the street and the private > citizen admitting to pulling the trigger. “The majority of this whole incident > was captured on video footage. We were able to review that video footage, and we > also benefited from the fact that there were a number of witnesses,” said > District Attorney John Adams. After extensively investigating the incident, > police determined the private citizen, whose name has not been released, acted > within the law when he tried to stop the two suspects from fleeing the > convenience store. > Adams said the private citizen demanded that they > stop and wait for police. He said when the robbers refused and pulled out their > guns, the citizen shot them in self-defense. “He needed to defend himself > because if he would not have used force, he himself may have suffered the wrath > of those two gun-toting robbers,” said Adams. Adams said he does not condone > violence on the streets of Reading, but the man did what he had to do to protect > himself. He also has some advice for those ever in a similar > situation. > “For the average citizen, if they did not possess a gun, > making observations would be helpful, but be careful when confronting someone > who has a gun. You have to be careful in these situations because no one wants > to see anyone else get hurt,” said Adams. In addition to being exempt from > criminal charges, Adams said because of the Castle Doctrine, the shooter now has > civil protection from being sued by the families. interesting 😛 ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/2 "2013-11-10T10:56:21Z")
The comments are funny ---
**Author:** ![pirite](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pirite/32/5308_2.png) [@pirite](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pirite)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/3 "2013-11-10T13:10:08Z")
'merica: the only place that your family members will call you a “good citizen” in an interview about them robbing a store. glad to see the unnamed man did what he had to and took care of business, better than pa residents tax money going to feed those two crooks. ---
**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/4 "2013-11-10T13:15:19Z")
“Family wants to see charges pressed” :rolleyes: These are the chances you take when robbing a store, not sure what else there is to think about…Don’t rob stores and you won’t get shot. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/5 "2013-11-10T13:16:38Z")
Criminals deserve a safe working environment ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/6 "2013-11-10T14:35:31Z")
Saw this on another car site. Funny, the bandits (“victims” ha!) got little sympathy there as well. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/7 "2013-11-10T15:50:57Z")
![http://www.shieldlehighvalley.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/armed_robbery.jpg](http://www.shieldlehighvalley.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/armed_robbery.jpg) ![http://www.meemes.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/Homeboy-Sideways-Gun-Sights-Motivational.jpg?itok=ijbGlYU_](http://www.meemes.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/Homeboy-Sideways-Gun-Sights-Motivational.jpg?itok=ijbGlYU_) Oddly enough the guns the robbers used were stolen so they didn’t get background checks :tif: ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/8 "2013-11-10T16:09:03Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Criminals deserve a safe working environment I lol’d. ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/9 "2013-11-10T16:14:23Z")
Convenience, Liquor and Bodega Robbers Local 1337 ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/10 "2013-11-10T16:57:01Z")
Good read. Thankfully the armed citizen was not injured and was capable of doing what was necessary. Sucks that he now has to live with this. I will +1 on lol at calling the armed criminals "good kid"s. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/11 "2013-11-11T05:28:29Z")
sorry sister, if you brother was a good kid and loving father he wouldnt have committed armed robbery with a stolen gun. too bad so sad. not. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/12 "2013-11-11T07:14:40Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > Good read. Thankfully the armed citizen was not injured and was capable of doing what was necessary. **Sucks that he now has to live with this.** > > I will +1 on lol at calling the armed criminals "good kid"s. Hes been waiting his whole life for the opportunity at a justifiable shooting, who are you kidding? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/13 "2013-11-11T07:29:30Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > [ > > Oddly enough the guns the robbers used were stolen so they didn’t get background checks :tif: I was just going to say they have laws against this, how could it happen? ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/14 "2013-11-11T07:45:39Z")
Waiting for the town/city to give the citizen a key to the city or a special thanks on live TV for the heroic acts he took. lol How well would the family take that? haha ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/15 "2013-11-12T03:46:15Z")
“How about if people just start running around here, policing the city on their own? How much worse is it going to get?” said Peter Ratel, Medina’s cousin. PEOPLE POLICING THEIR OWN SAFETY IS THE BAD PART OF WHAT HAPPENED HERE?!?!? I don’t want to live on this planet anymore. ---
**Author:** ![MR.TWOSINISTER](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr.twosinister/32/6198_2.png) [@MR.TWOSINISTER](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MR.TWOSINISTER)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/16 "2013-11-12T05:44:47Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > “How about if people just start running around here, policing the city on their own? How much worse is it going to get?” said Peter Ratel, Medina’s cousin. > > PEOPLE POLICING THEIR OWN SAFETY IS THE BAD PART OF WHAT HAPPENED HERE?!?!? > > I don’t want to live on this planet anymore. Call the police when you are being held at gunpoint. Thats what they are there for. We will send flowers to your widow. ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/17 "2013-11-12T06:07:03Z")
“When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.” ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/18 "2013-11-12T07:57:23Z")
Great story. About time. Eye for an eye. Cut off the thieves hands. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/19 "2013-11-12T08:26:17Z")
Moe: Yeah, so last night I was closing up the bar, when some young punk comes in and tries to stick me up. [the crowd gasps] Sideshow Mel: Whatever did you do, Moe? Moe: Well, it coulda been a real ugly situation, but, I managed to shoot him in the spine. Yeah. I guess the next place he robs better have a ramp! ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-men-killed-in-botch-robbery-reading-pa/233767/20 "2013-11-12T08:39:31Z")
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