# UB Formula SAE team dyno results

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [October 18, 2005, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540 "2005-10-18T15:44:28Z")
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### Author: ![Inn-Tune](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/inn-tune/32/7588_2.png) [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2005, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/1 "2005-10-18T15:44:28Z")

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I tuned the University of Buffalo’s formula SAE car today with a Motec M4 system. It wasn’t a complete tune as they’re just trying to get it going since it’s been down for about a year. Their previous best dyno was 53 whp revving it to 13,000 RPM according to team members. It made 70 whp and 38 lb/ft of torque today revving to 10,500 rpm which would be over a 30% increase in power. We stopped there as they already have a new car in progress and this car will only be used for “testing”. 🙂 They’re running a stock CBR 600 engine through a tiny restrictor which you can see in this picture. Maybe one of the team members can chime in on the size of that restrictor.

![http://www.innovativetuningdl.com/dyno/InnTuned/UBFSAE-OldCar.jpg](http://www.innovativetuningdl.com/dyno/InnTuned/UBFSAE-OldCar.jpg)

For those of you who have seen these car in action they’re rather violent when driven around an autoX course. It’s a lot of fun to watch. 53 whp in a 500 lb vehicle is a handful, especially with the gearing they run. 70 whp should be interesting to say the least.

Here’s a shot of the tuning progression:  
 ![http://www.innovativetuningdl.com/dyno/InnTuned/UBFSAE-Progression.gif](http://www.innovativetuningdl.com/dyno/InnTuned/UBFSAE-Progression.gif)

and then the final graph:  
 ![http://www.innovativetuningdl.com/dyno/InnTuned/UBFSAE-70WHP.gif](http://www.innovativetuningdl.com/dyno/InnTuned/UBFSAE-70WHP.gif)

-Mike

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### Author: ![JettaX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JettaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JettaX)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/2 "2005-10-18T16:19:47Z")

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20mm restrictor. And i have driven the car with 53hp and it was, well quick and fun. I need to come back up to buffalo and take a ride now. I miss that car. I am very impressed with the numbers you got out of that, especially since i sort of designed and built the fuel system on that car with a fuel pump i found in a cabinet and made that fuel tank, which was way more complicated then it had to be. I’m glad to know the car is still running and running strong. :tup:

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### Author: ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2005, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/3 "2005-10-18T16:59:25Z")

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last time i popped my head in they were no longer using the fi cbr motor. they go back to it?

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### Author: ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2005, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/4 "2005-10-18T16:59:46Z")

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> [@Inn-Tune](#):
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> It’s a lot of fun to watch. 53 whp in a 500 lb vehicle is a handful, especially with the gearing they run. 70 whp should be interesting to say the least.
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> -Mike

Tell me about it. That was by design 😉

Good to see the old car still up and running :tspry:

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### Author: ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/5 "2005-10-18T17:47:42Z")

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pretty sure thats the old motor, been to a few meeting tho i doubt anyone remembers seeing my face. The new motor wil be a briggs n stratton v4. Im thinkin about ACTUALLY joining these guys this year, anyone wanna go to a meeting with me?

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### Author: ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2005, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/6 "2005-10-18T18:58:30Z")

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Yes, the motor he tuned was the old motor. It was a straight F4, not an F4i. The engine team (myself, Ryan, Krit, I’m forgetting someone) converted it to fuel injection.

Boardjnky, you should really join, it’s a good learning experience. It definitely helped me in my understanding of cars.

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### Author: ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2005, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/7 "2005-10-18T19:00:40Z")

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u still a member or did u graduate?

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### Author: ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2005, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/8 "2005-10-18T19:02:14Z")

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Alumni. boardjnky4 you should join. Great hands on learning experience. Working on that car helped a lot with my understanding of cars and my mechanical abilities, which sucked when I started since I was EE. You will pick up a lot if you participate and work hard.

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### Author: ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/9 "2005-10-18T19:42:50Z")

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Nice numbers wow

Now about that noise level situation…

lol

V twin 4 lyfe

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### Author: ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2005, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/10 "2005-10-18T21:45:48Z")

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that shit ain’t no twin son

i may join, but have to wait till next semester. this semester i have class tues and thurs 12:30-1:50 then 5-6:20. don’t they meet 5:30 thursdays or something?

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### Author: ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/11 "2005-10-18T21:47:51Z")

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sweetnesss

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### Author: ![Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/53a042/32.png) [@Ninja](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ninja)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2005, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/12 "2005-10-18T22:34:59Z")

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Yea, that thing needed some serious tuning… :tup: mike.

Of course… you prolly werent standing behind a wooden table fearing for your life while tuning like we did trying to tune the engine with a Water Dyno, while the engine sat on a table, and the chain got so hot in boiled the grease out of the bearings… yea… that was fun.

I would love to see how it feels with 70whp… too bad the suspension still sucks… dont get me started on the steering… we bent a .049 steel tube which acted as the steering shaft to the rack trying to steer the car around, it might have even been .065… that steering sucked.

EDIT: Just to give you guys an idea of Mike’s skills… 70whp is what the top teams make with their NA CBRs… and what some teams make with Turbo CBRs… also that intake manifold design and throttle body could use alot of improvement.

Still needs a muffler tho… 🙂 … 110db is the competition limit… i bet that straight pipe is in the 130-150 range.

As much as I hated FSAE at times, i still miss it… its 99% disapointment, and 1% OMGWTF THIS FUCKING RULES… its that 1% that gets ya.

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### Author: ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2005, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/13 "2005-10-19T00:14:02Z")

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> [@Ninja](#):
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> Of course… you prolly werent standing behind a wooden table fearing for your life while tuning like we did trying to tune the engine with a Water Dyno, while the engine sat on a table, and the chain got so hot in boiled the grease out of the bearings… yea… that was fun.  
> .

:lol: Whole lotta fun that was.

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### Author: ![JettaX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JettaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JettaX)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2005, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/14 "2005-10-19T04:11:59Z")

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> [@Ninja](#):
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> As much as I hated FSAE at times, i still miss it… its 99% disapointment, and 1% OMGWTF THIS FUCKING RULES… its that 1% that gets ya.

:word:

And yeah dynoing it in the garage in lockport at 3am with the chain glowing, was an experience.

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### Author: ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2005, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/15 "2005-10-19T04:29:58Z")

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> [@Coldaccord](#):
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> that shit ain’t no twin son
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> i may join, but have to wait till next semester. this semester i have class tues and thurs 12:30-1:50 then 5-6:20. don’t they meet 5:30 thursdays or something?

Thanks captian obvious…

I was just speaking of the current motAr…

not the one in the pic

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### Author: ![JettaX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JettaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JettaX)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/16 "2005-10-19T15:46:42Z")

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> [@Coldaccord](#):
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> that shit ain’t no twin son
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> i may join, but have to wait till next semester. this semester i have class tues and thurs 12:30-1:50 then 5-6:20. don’t they meet 5:30 thursdays or something?

You don’t have to be able to make the “meetings” to be part of formula. As long as you can make it to the shop during the week and put in productive time building shit, your good to go. The shop is open 8-5 M-F i believe. (Its been a while for me, i forget)

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### Author: ![JDMR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmr2/32/7587_2.png) [@JDMR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMR2)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2005, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/17 "2005-10-19T15:55:32Z")

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nice catch can…lol…

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### Author: ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/18 "2005-10-19T19:46:41Z")

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well when are the meetings for this so i can sign up, could have sworn i posted earlier to see if anyone wanted to head down with me. so when are the meetings and anyone else down to check this out with me?

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### Author: ![Mixmastermike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mixmastermike/32/7314_2.png) [@Mixmastermike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mixmastermike)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2005, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/19 "2005-10-19T20:10:10Z")

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^ I’ll go down with you, i heard you have to be interviewed

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### Author: ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2005, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ub-formula-sae-team-dyno-results/3540/20 "2005-10-19T20:18:35Z")

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interviewed aye? well lets meet up up before the meeting and go there together and tell them some ppl from here that were in the club refered us, sure we can get on it.

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