# Ugh...House Passes new Surveillance Law

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**Created:** [June 20, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ugh-house-passes-new-surveillance-law/50327 "2008-06-20T10:38:04Z")
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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ugh-house-passes-new-surveillance-law/50327/9 "2008-06-20T12:35:05Z")

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> [@Penfold](#):
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> But, the federal government did not have the legal right to tell them to wiretap and harvest data from AMERICAN CITIZENS.
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> I have no problem with an update to wiretapping protocol, but the the protection for the corporations is BS. What they did was illegal, simple as that.
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> And no, it was no a bunch of lawyers trying to get rich, it was mostly watchdog organizations and universities with the lawsuits.
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> Open spying on american sounds all good and great until at some point in time when they say make it illegal to like GTO’s. (obviously very exaggerated example)
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> This is the United States of America, not communist Russia. We have laws here that protect THE PEOPLE from THE GOVERNMENT.

Ok, so the government shows up here where I work, a credit union software company, and tells us we need to modify our code to track fund transfers that go overseas. We check them out, they’re legit feds, they have the paperwork, and if we tell them to fuck off we’ll face charges or at a minimum have our federal certifications pulled. So it’s our responsibility to fight this in court? Hell no, just like it’s not AT&T’s responsibility to fight wiretaps, or the resulting lawsuits if they don’t fight them.

Let the ACLU or other privacy group sue the government, since they’re the ones saying they have legal grounds for the wiretaps, but not the corporations that I just going along with what the government is telling them is legal. That’s total class action lawyer bullshit right there.

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