# uhhhh what happened to oink?

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [October 23, 2007, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457 "2007-10-23T08:02:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/21 "2007-10-23T16:39:22Z")

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[quote=“66impalass,post:6,topic:37457"”]

demonoid is next on the list according to a few posting from people close to oink

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☹

\<3 demonoid

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**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/22 "2007-10-23T16:56:49Z")

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[quote=“Locutus,post:9,topic:37457"”]

wipe your hard drives kids…

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Hahahah… That doesn’t matter anymore, silly boy…

[http://www.overclockers.com/tips01226/](http://www.overclockers.com/tips01226/)

This woman got sued and convicted without having anything on her HD.

Granted she got it because she shared files rather than downloading but I am sure that doesn’t matter.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/23 "2007-10-23T17:42:02Z")

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[quote=“RuBiCaNT,post:22,topic:37457"”]

Hahahah… That doesn’t matter anymore, silly boy…

[http://www.overclockers.com/tips01226/](http://www.overclockers.com/tips01226/)

This woman got sued and convicted without having anything on her HD.

Granted she got it because she shared files rather than downloading but I am sure that doesn’t matter.

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Yeah, wiping the drive really doesn’t make much sense. They have the logs that show you downloaded it, and worse that you seeded it to others. It doesn’t matter if you don’t have the shared file anymore because the fact remains that they can prove that you did have it.

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**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/24 "2007-10-23T21:12:13Z")

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10 cents a song.

[http://mp3fiesta.com/](http://mp3fiesta.com/)

I’ve been using it for 2 weeks and its not too bad.:tup:

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**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/25 "2007-10-23T21:21:55Z")

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Crazyness, though it was a matter of time in general. It was just getting too mainstream.

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**Author:** ![itsJim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@itsJim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/itsJim)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/26 "2007-10-23T21:57:49Z")

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[quote=“RuBiCaNT,post:22,topic:37457"”]

Hahahah… That doesn’t matter anymore, silly boy…

[http://www.overclockers.com/tips01226/](http://www.overclockers.com/tips01226/)

This woman got sued and convicted without having anything on her HD.

Granted she got it because she shared files rather than downloading but I am sure that doesn’t matter.

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That’s why you use Peer Guradian ( [http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/](http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/) ) if you use Windows or OSX and MoBlock ( [http://moblock.berlios.de/](http://moblock.berlios.de/) ) if you use Linux

[quote=“JayS,post:23,topic:37457"”]

It doesn’t matter if you don’t have the shared file anymore because the fact remains that they can prove that you did have it.

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No they can’t

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**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/27 "2007-10-23T22:00:49Z")

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Got home and sure enough my oink seeds all had connection errors with the tracker offline ☹

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**Author:** ![98\_FoRmUlA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/41988e/32.png) [@98\_FoRmUlA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/98_FoRmUlA)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/28 "2007-10-23T23:20:05Z")

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:gotme:

gawd i stil use limewire… i must be living in the dark age… someone pm and show me the light??

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**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/29 "2007-10-24T00:07:35Z")

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98 formula.  
Download utorrent.  
–setup port forwarding in your router.  
Go to demonoid or bitsoup & search for files.  
Download, seed.  
???  
Profit

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/30 "2007-10-24T05:23:41Z")

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[quote=“itsJim,post:26,topic:37457"”]

No they can’t

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The convictions say otherwise.

[quote=“ryanmcell,post:29,topic:37457"”]

98 formula.  
Download utorrent.  
–setup port forwarding in your router.  
Go to demonoid or bitsoup & search for files.  
Download, seed.  
BitSoup gets raided, server logs admitted into evidence.  
All of us BitSoup members get letters in the mail detailing exactly what files we’ve seeded, and an offer of several thousand to settle out of court.

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Fixed.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/31 "2007-10-24T06:12:51Z")

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[quote=“itsJim,post:26,topic:37457"”]

That’s why you use Peer Guradian ( [http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/](http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/) ) if you use Windows or OSX and MoBlock ( [http://moblock.berlios.de/](http://moblock.berlios.de/) ) if you use Linux

No they can’t

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Those arn’t going to save you…

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/32 "2007-10-24T06:30:36Z")

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[quote=“FormulaLS1,post:31,topic:37457"”]

Those arn’t going to save you…

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Peer guardian might help if they’re just scanning the networks looking for people sharing, though I doubt it’s lists are up to date enough. But once they confiscate te server, and have the server side logs, peer guardian does nothing for you. They have a log of your IP, what you shared, and when you did it. With that your ISP is more than willing to link to your account, real name, address etc.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/33 "2007-10-24T06:51:15Z")

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I guess, even though it’s slower and doesn’t 100% guarantee safety, proxies are the way to go. Better than nothing

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**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/34 "2007-10-24T06:55:33Z")

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[quote=“RuBiCaNT,post:22,topic:37457"”]

Hahahah… That doesn’t matter anymore, silly boy…

[http://www.overclockers.com/tips01226/](http://www.overclockers.com/tips01226/)

This woman got sued and convicted without having anything on her HD.

Granted she got it because she shared files rather than downloading but I am sure that doesn’t matter.

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lol

first of all. i love how you try to come at me when you think your right \<3

second of all. a _conviction_ is criminal… she lost a civil suit, she didn’t get _convicted_. big difference.

third of all. the author of the article explains that the logs/back work that the rIAA is doing now is “sufficient” for civil cases… same is true for the fBI… b4 they come to your door, the case is solved and they typically know its you, they are just trying to get you to admit that you did it so there doesn’t need to be a trial.

also, regarding civil cases in general and her case specifically, it looks like the defence took the “some hacker hacked into her network and downloaded files” defence… which is WEAK at best… just like any civil case, if your expert sucks, and advises counsel to take a particular defence, which sucks - your going to lose the case. simple as that… (if i was accused, i wouldn’t have a dumb expert :snky: )

its kind of like the fbi has your ballistics records of your gun, the receipt of you buying the gun and video of you walking out of the door with the gun after purchasing it… fast forward 5 years and your gun is used in a bank robbery. and you say “hey i didn’t shoot them, someone else did”… of course the fbi not having the gun is not necessary, to convict… would the best defence be “hey someone stole my gun” ?-- well maybe it is because you’re guilty and that’s the easiest story to keep straight at trial but IMO you could come up with several other defences which would look a LOT more creditable to the court…

regardless, take it or leave it, i would never d/l pirated data from the net - and not just for the legal/ethical reasons :snky:

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/35 "2007-10-24T06:57:29Z")

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:lol:

🙂

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**Author:** ![Silver](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silver/32/4953_2.png) [@Silver](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/36 "2007-10-24T18:17:57Z")

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Just read an interesting article on the rammifications to the oink userbase.

[http://idolator.com/tunes/the-law/the-oink-fallout-should-its-ex+users-be-watching-their-backs-314216.php](http://idolator.com/tunes/the-law/the-oink-fallout-should-its-ex+users-be-watching-their-backs-314216.php)

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/37 "2007-10-24T19:20:18Z")

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^ I think this weekend I’m going to look into using newsgroups and stop using bitsoup. Just too much risk w/torrents.

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**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/38 "2007-10-25T12:05:28Z")

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JayS send me an IM tonight I’ll get you a hookup.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/39 "2007-10-25T12:28:03Z")

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:tup:

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**Author:** ![IWantaSupra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iwantasupra/32/7222_2.png) [@IWantaSupra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IWantaSupra)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uhhhh-what-happened-to-oink/37457/40 "2007-10-25T13:22:38Z")

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Yeah, a ton of sites are cracking down. Torrentleech stopped invites completely. TL 4 Life.

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